From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 10:37:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C655116A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:37:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC6643FBD for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:37:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h9SIbM4b013447 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:37:29 GMT (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id h9SIbM0L013446; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:37:22 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:37:22 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: Jason Williams Message-ID: <20031028183722.GA13189@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Jason Williams , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031028085609.00afa820@pop.courtesymortgage.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031028085609.00afa820@pop.courtesymortgage.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clarification on CVS Tags X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:37:42 -0000 --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 09:43:20AM -0800, Jason Williams wrote: > Good morning everyone. >=20 > I was hoping to get some verification regarding CVS Tags. I'm pretty sure= I=20 > understand, but just wanted to have my thoughts validated for me. >=20 > In reading the CVS Tag page in the handbook, I understand the basics of= =20 > what is going on. >=20 > If I specify this in my cvsup file: > RELENG_4_8 >=20 > I will follow the Release Branch of 4.8, plus security patches. > This would be a good choice for production servers. Correct. =20 > RELENG_4 > For this, you are following the entire 4.x stable branch. In theory, if I= =20 > install 4.5 and set this up in my cvsup file and run it, I will have the= =20 > source tree going all the way to 4.9rc# correct? From here, you could bui= ld=20 > world? Correct. At the moment, RELENG_4 will get you 4.9-RC4, which will shortly become 4.9-RELEASE for a few minutes while the RELENG_4_9 branch is created, and then 4.9-STABLE. If you're willing to wait for a few days RELENG_4_9 would also be a good choice for a production server. > Finally: >=20 > RELENG_4_8_0_RELEASE >=20 > This would follow just the source, ports and docs tree up to 4.8, the=20 > "frozen" section, correct? > Why would someone want to use this particular setup? What are the benefit= s?=20 > Drawbacks? > Would it work in a sense that if I installed 4.4 on a server, set this up= =20 > in my cvsup file to RELENG_4_8_0_RELEASE, ran the update to update source= s,=20 > ports and docs, then make world: That then would make my box 4.8 ? Not so correct. RELENG_4_8_0_RELEASE marks the state of the system sources at the point that the RELENG_4_8 branch was created, and what went onto the release CDs. Yes, you can use this tag to download sources and building world from there will get you 4.8-RELEASE. However, it's not generally useful to put this tag into a cvsup sup-file -- principally because it marks a point in time, and once you've downloaded it, there won't be any updates. So: no security patches etc. If you're tempted to use this tag, then you probably really want to use RELENG_4_8 or RELENG_4_9 instead. Note that the RELENG_4_x and RELENG_5_x tags apply only to the system sources. The one important tag you've not mentionned is '.', also known as the HEAD in cvs terms. When applied to the system sources, this gets you 5-CURRENT, but unless you're a high powered system hacker type, you don't want that. Ports and docs however, are a different matter. For those collections '.' is the only game in town. The RELENG_x_y tags simply don't exist, and if you accidentally try and cvsup ports using one of them, you'll end up deleting your whole ports tree. [The RELENG_x_y_0_RELEASE tags do exist, but exactly like the system sources they just serve to mark what goes onto the CD Roms.] Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/nrdidtESqEQa7a0RAqmFAJ4kTrj0+GrH81+zSuFunD9CU1MvmQCgkLL3 WuMVpd+9aZXzy/AsF8q/mtU= =RgFF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j--