From owner-freebsd-fs Tue Mar 27 16:54:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98F137B718; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:54:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 799456AB60; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:24:45 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:24:45 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Brian Somers Cc: "Michael C . Wu" , dillon@FreeBSD.ORG, fs@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum stripe size (was: tuning a VERY heavily (30.0) loaded server) Message-ID: <20010328102445.C92853@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200103280040.f2S0eSc03825@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103280040.f2S0eSc03825@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org>; from brian@Awfulhak.org on Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:40:27AM +0100 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, 28 March 2001 at 1:40:27 +0100, Brian Somers wrote: >> On Tuesday, 27 March 2001 at 9:39:36 +0100, Brian Somers wrote: >>>> On Tuesday, 20 March 2001 at 11:11:44 -0600, Michael C . Wu wrote: >>>>> [Lengthy email, bear with me please, it is quite interesting. >>>>> This box averages 30.0 load with no problems.] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Average file size is about 4K. /home/bbsusers* is on a vinum >>>>> stripe'd volume with 3 Ultra160 9G 10000RPM drives on sym0 at stripe >>>>> size 256K, Greg: I know this should be a prime number, >>>> >>>> No, there's no requirement for it to be a prime number. The only >>>> problem is that with 32 MB cylinder groups and a power of two stripe >>>> size and subdisk count, you end up with all the superblocks on one >>>> subdisk, which is a performance issue. Choose the stripe size so that >>>> the superblocks are roughly evenly distributed. >>> >>> A performance issue ? Surely you've misspelt ``reliability'' ? >> >> I don't see a reliability issue here. > > I believe the only issue with having all your superblocks on one disk > is a reliability thing - if you lose the disk you lose your > superblock(s). Ah. Lose part of your file system and you lose your file system. Vinum has other ways of making up for that problem. > Surely the only performance problem would be that of locality - if > you use the partition a bit, that ``problem'' should go away though. No, under normal circumstances all metadata updates would go to the same disk, since they're just behind the superblock. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message