Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 07:30:02 +0800 From: Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> To: Freddie Cash <fjwcash@gmail.com>, krad <kraduk@gmail.com> Cc: "ports@FreeBSD.org" <ports@freebsd.org>, qjail1 <qjail1@a1poweruser.com>, FreeBSD questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed? Message-ID: <68ad0daa-b1f5-f3a6-f056-dcf2f0047d94@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <CAOjFWZ4naPVfQFEr7Hz%2B9A0_fa5O1V0H%2Butd9eMo02eHPGxehg@mail.gmail.com> References: <58F61A8D.1030309@a1poweruser.com> <CALfReyctL3vTt756oyh1ZTf%2BkgpAOHwp_SUZQCFQiZDccFNMow@mail.gmail.com> <CAOjFWZ4naPVfQFEr7Hz%2B9A0_fa5O1V0H%2Butd9eMo02eHPGxehg@mail.gmail.com>
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On 19/4/17 12:13 am, Freddie Cash wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 7:57 AM, krad <kraduk@gmail.com> wrote: > >> quarterly does seem very cautious, maybe a monthly might be a good >> alternative. I can understand people being hesitant about latest though. I >> guess these are not the people who ask though. Maybe the real answer though >> is to have a specific repo for that port for the bleeding edge people much >> like launchpad on ubuntu. It might get complicated though for big >> dependency trees though. >> > latest/ is good for desktop users who only care about running the very > latest versions of everything. > > quarterly/ is good for server users who want to make sure that installing a > new piece of software won't require an upgrade of all the currently > installed software (repo hasn't changed since the last install). And for > desktop users who prefer to use their computers for doing work instead of > spending all their time chasing after the "latest" flashy bling bling. :) > > quarterly/ also gets security fixes back-ported into it (on a > per-maintainer basis so it's not 100% coverage yet), so you can stay secure > without chasing new software versions. > > IOW, don't change the infrastructure, it's working nicely. Just educate > the users. :D > quarterly however is broken because the pkg mirors discard it all at the time of update. meaning you can not come back later to get one you forgot.. and sometimes you can get half way through, and everything breaks becuase you happened to select teh wrong date to do your work. > >> On 18 April 2017 at 14:54, qjail1 <qjail1@a1poweruser.com> wrote: >> >>> I maintain a port and I have users complaining that the pkg system takes >>> many months before the updated version of my port shows up in the pkg >>> system. >>> >>> My response is I tell them to change a line in their >> /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf >>> file >>> from url: "pkg+http://pkg.Freebsd.org/${ABI}/quarterly", >>> to url: "pkg+http://pkg.Freebsd.org/${ABI}/latest", >>> >>> The old pkg system never had this quarterly update cycle and I see no >>> reason to have it now when its so easy to over ride the default. >>> >>> Why not just change the default to "latest" and save on all the overhead >>> of the quarterly cycle? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe >>> @freebsd.org" >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >
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