From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jun 21 15:37:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15285 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:37:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15221; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:36:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01054; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 00:35:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199806212235.AAA01054@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-Reply-To: <199806212015.NAA01135@antipodes.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Jun 21, 98 01:15:05 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 00:35:33 +0200 (CEST) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@netcom.com, nirva@ishiboo.com, rhh@ct.picker.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to Mike Smith who wrote: > > On that note, I think we badly need a "house clean" through > > the entire system, especially the kernel, but also parts of > > userland, we have way to much crap in there because of not > > thinking things through before pulling the trigger. If my 12+ > > years in this business has learned me anything its the 80/20 > > rule: think it through for 80% of the time then use 20% of > > the time to implement it correctly. > > There hasn't been 12 years of communal software development at this > level. What there has been suggests to me that a better approach is to > spend 5% of the time implementing it as quickly as possible. 65% of > the time arguing about why the implementation sucks, 20% of the time on > abortive reimplementations and then 10% on doing it better. > > This 10% is then the leading 5% for the next iteration. Get real :) > > Well, I probably wasn't on multimedia at that time, and that doesn't > > make the hack more "right", besides there is only so many things > > you can keep an eye on.. > > The MouseRemote support is no better or worse than the support for > other not-very-mouselike things that are already in there. If you have > time to design and implement a better, generic "input class" structure, > be our guest. Why should I do all the work ?? :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end? .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message