From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 3 01:42:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C7B106569C; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 01:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D961E8FC1C; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 01:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m931g2k9080507; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:42:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m931g2Sp080506; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:42:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:42:02 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: Joel Dahl Message-ID: <20081003014202.GA80474@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <1222892584.00020319.1222880402@10.7.7.3> <48E47ADF.7030004@FreeBSD.org> <20081002144243.3f2e7310@ernst.jennejohn.org> <48E4CC6C.6050407@FreeBSD.org> <20081002194411.387b7f32@ernst.jennejohn.org> <48E526A6.8000107@FreeBSD.org> <48E54290.5010600@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48E54290.5010600@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Alexander Motin , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: regression in HDA functionality X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:42:03 -0000 On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 11:52:16PM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote: > Alexander Motin wrote: > >Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > > With the old kernel it just works. > > > >Old kernel just was unable to support even a half of that what new one > >can. There was no SPDIF/HDMI, was no multi codec and multi device > >support, often was no recording. > > But basic stuff like speakers and plugging in headphones "just worked" > with the old driver. There are several PR's against the older driver. These PR were neglected and are still neglected. > Your new driver may support much, much more > features, but we've seen an alarming numbers of complaints about basic > functionality being broken now (with the new driver). There were just as many against the old driver. You didn't notice because you were one of the fortunate users. > Oh, and I'm not trying to flame your work. It's great that we have > someone that takes care of this code, but I just can't help but think > that this driver should have gone through a few more iterations of > testing before entering the tree. I don't agree with your position. I'll also note that neither the old driver nor the new driver work with my hardware. The difference is that Alexander has been quite helpful in providing help in debugging the problems with the new driver. -- Steve