From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 18 16:24:46 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2309B2CE3CE for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 16:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic312-26.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic312-26.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.178.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 494JFm4WKJz4VKR for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 16:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: iXrE6EUVM1ns0CgCGb4CWZkYTT3UQu5vKpMAHT7QUmCXpb8RGA.s8fZiCCB1vV6 t10_CjWnT0oVyZgdy9k8jABsd2aKGvAyZ7cNpxr8IOnt.rWJePS_Xua62fMpym3eGqeJSNmXJVB_ LTUPxWdtzRA9iHPTYqEhuMJRR0svGlqrMkThEniSE.CuDhOCap8sLXO0hEpdP7lIClus0BkxBkKl 9i3iMNo2I31PrhZbEYYafogZRiQzJwKhRynblAhP2LkhmHUDZhiVBZ0qjh0PS11A3hk0ztJD6nIB 3bAOj9U87yJu4AYNZ9Ag4SqkEPDHjCZgqBTGOmQ4YlqDeyxYyg4BMGi6B6Km3nc2Z5FelhL_farC OP290ZhinyEqB2uJik9kRksZjS_49W8zqZrKNe4nj39xkyAgL5yEhYxbAZX3GRkhglU7kAsMI3h_ RzDH_kKZ6A8Pm3cwtxcHYKO8RnleNi8Y8pzAgeqdt3B1n9onxYpgjjRR6R0uQaRzcCxYk2jCQTWb qLdWgMw7e8BfyWLUfJwZ8NHkagfPWW1Q8BvTgFY8x8xJXpEeuAyDd93P6zd5RvYXtLP.dRUi1ANf Hl0jVz4.O4FPtZAESS6v42HANY5VQXwAKi9cVok92VjyWn3xGcAgydZQ82ZdgjDf9wCUeFbM43ga rNdcAqMloVolWZ5yPDLN_x16_xGbkOYGo1W5GImNU6zapWkmQjzVuCB0.LrQw8CtBiMaTPQqOULh y269J2zP3s1sQtZghUM6nmJ5cwp4EIpUyipTDJAKKFXAsAny9UQv4zGe4F1xJ.0fOs1rEd_yLHkm FIVfOOIH0AfWwvGTCAh9UT48ECbMSb1F8UP2HxLgMOfr8dOoxaE.V7bU8L99n7_JF79DDPoLE2Be uvHqaHhBnJ5MJAiH90zFE4nPhp7hH0tx5nWYVwNPi.X7NetsFvRUr0nvqFHWHZcQNAfnY3dzmHQ8 Ymsco.rO8FDAo6FfPENVXCvlluC4D7MelyGOJFzozZ.zNnzj3c7BzkCK6kLzXeJz9eantqwTkH7E RTO_MzE9_DfCrXYkuKDsjDqEKohn62cFLc3wqzUzrDstVpfwjk3utA33i1UVSHjf4QDvtDyVnEaP IJGIifRDw3GI85aGKRIo8D_fzW9es0_IEb92J5qzntQBACI.wTpyvjKV31qBEFOIKQXtL2EvRw1C g1WZbVxzc5e8_tbXCKp4QgkkS3TrR.LLe9QcBTRqaD3QDUSc.Jq1RKg9gCaVB7So_DJQxkpjSwT_ JTN0zA3KpXKoJcJXTU9IUZmYJa6s13htx_hOYfE.yfqKWKKFyStUFEP_Eh4AhIKAacRqmcU5YHEg XH8b7zbQa0Gr3TL0mtsUcGFt5ZbuG87EVN5bnaUMuzjyOEE5ku7Y6fQEE3nsecs2e25JfHHIku.I Sy_g1KXIIuFU- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic312.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 16:24:42 +0000 Received: by smtp429.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 8b9633fecc6c13a9db69d7e423070558; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 16:24:37 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 18:24:37 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd should be rewritten based on microkernel architecture Message-ID: <20200418182437.037869c8@archlinux> In-Reply-To: References: <3f1496d1f598c84b3871b630f161256e152aca75.camel@tom.com> <681077991.2278153.1587146552233@mail.yahoo.com> <20200417213025.16ba5877.freebsd@edvax.de> <1659102270.119843446.1587168373188.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <20200418092801.20d10f5b@archlinux> <4bc4b613-50a7-4890-61e8-5ed5037b07dc@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200418165853.79dbdde1@archlinux> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 494JFm4WKJz4VKR X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.19 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.74)[-0.736,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.963,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[97.178.238.77.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[97.178.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (3.32), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.14), asn: 34010(1.69), country: GB(-0.07)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 16:24:46 -0000 On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 11:26:54 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 20:50:09 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >> >And here goes the *ABSOLUTE* reason why no developer who ever hopes >> >to make any money at all from their work should *EVER* use GPL. >> >> It's utter nonsense! Without doubts MIT, BSD and other licenses are >> better for some projects, while for other projects GPL could grant a >> bonus. > >Not according to the FreeBSD foundation who recommends against GPL in >almost all cases. >https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/bsdl-gpl/article.html >(see sections 9 and 10) They do not use the terms "absolute" and "ever". Btw. if there are already a lot of GPL licensed libraries and kernel abilities available for a project of some domain, that are not available by such an amount, if at all by another licensed infrastructure, it could become very expensive to create the required infrastructure. Those who make a living from whatever licensed software probably have reasons to chose a particular license. Some probably chose the wrong license by mistake, other chose a license that is good for them and their customers. I can't see that you are that successful with your business, as the coder of Ardour is with his business. That might be a wrong conclusion, let alone that the software license not necessarily is the reason for more or less success. However, you are seemingly not programming in all domains, but you don't restrain from generalizing.