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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:42:20 +0200
From: Eivind Eklund <eivind@FreeBSD.ORG>
To: Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>
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Subject: Re: import NetBSD rc system
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On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 12:14:24PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> : Second, Eivind has already done
> : some excellent work in this area. Take a look at
> : http://people.freebsd.org/~eivind/newrc.html for more info.
> 
> With all due respect to Eivind, he's reinventing the wheel.

This is a misunderstanding.  That document predates the NetBSD rc system.  The
document was unchanged from 1999 until I changed approximate 10 lines in it
yesterday, due to getting user feedback.

The document in question is a requirements document, not a design for a
replacement system.  What I've always seen as its chief use is as a tool for
evaluating proposed rc-system replacement, and being able to avoid long
discussions about what is good and bad about a hypothetical replacement each
time somebody propose to replace the rc system.

I do NOT intend to implement an alternate rc system apart from NetBSD (though
if the community as a whole decided that was necessary I would probably
contribute to such an effort.)

> I'd like to see NetBSD's brought in with an absolute minimum of change.

I have not looked deeply at the NetBSD rc system, but agree that this is
probably the best move.  The system should be evaluated carefully using all
available resources (including newrc.html) by the people wanting to do the
change before importing it, though.

Eivind.

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