From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 11 19:57:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796DBAEFEE2 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2016 19:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E4B6285D for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2016 19:57:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE37620C9; Sat, 11 Jun 2016 15:48:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oOamRz3hK51L; Sat, 11 Jun 2016 15:48:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CDBFA62239; Sat, 11 Jun 2016 15:48:29 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1465674510; bh=OawB0eHHFEOHCqY53RhQ98QfLS9uplpVbMC8QCbVPVY=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:Reply-To; b=F96nvM4bpDENx3/FdRuJa9twfo1gnvpZCMVfF3l1HggBJUo2GJEXFfEg8NFdyTwvd oCowpqL+g0N2qeNt4kmyd9W+gbvkO23WqaIZuHx7ws9pS6pCf4UwAmcSwLIvPwt5gC vQs1N7ht7wDM7hU+eZsSkOsBdp8teYeUoLfoZYCvwNaQm00IdnmoghwkjY08ReXUqo l4k/worpWLQf3dBbrk/cIKWsIhP4VTCDyuzJJ2ogMSc4sCzOkFtKl9JrQ4KSNa5PIA bLNCcHGYTrFKpJLLlydasyan94gOSOj1arQTzRXuoHyVqUM7QcfDvymeN3aAq9SjdZ UFmXy9NYowdkg== Received: from 216.185.71.22 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2016 15:48:30 -0400 Message-ID: <2dbf8c17dedd15d1b696a92232d655e0.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 15:48:30 -0400 Subject: Re: advice for buying a laptop From: "James B. Byrne" To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: "User Questions" Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 19:57:09 -0000 On Fri, June 10, 2016 12:51, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > Indeed. I remember some 10 or 15 years ago someone said: having a > mac is like driving ferrari. Ford or subaru will get you around > same well, but but ferrari gives you that chic ;-) > > Valeri More like a Benz. My MacBook pro 17" is seven years old as of February past and still runs well. Actually, really well. Before this I never had a laptop survive more than three years before some critical piece of irreplaceable hardware failed. Many not even that long (Sony Vaio ~9 months, HPQ whatever made with LCM chips only certified to 40C [saved a fortune in costs -- ~$0.005 per unit -- over chips certified to80C] ~13 months.) Unfortunately, contemporary Macs are monolithic beasts. Like the iPhone you cannot even open them to change a battery; much less add memory or storage. So bye-bye Apple when I finally do have to upgrade. But the machine I have is wonderful. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3