From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 23 13:42:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 252A1153B1 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:42:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 7868 invoked from network); 23 Nov 1999 21:41:09 -0000 Received: from useral73.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) (62.188.134.146) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 1999 21:41:09 -0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id VAA00693; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:40:42 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:40:41 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: James A Wilde Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Programmers' editor? Message-ID: <19991123214041.A316@marder-1> References: <38375433.193946BF@sasknow.com> <009901bf35ee$d892ef60$8208a8c0@iqunlimited.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <009901bf35ee$d892ef60$8208a8c0@iqunlimited.net> Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 09:10:49PM +0100, James A Wilde wrote: > Related question from a greenhorn. > > Most of my editing is administrative editing of configuration files > and the like. For that vi is a pita with all that programmers crap. > The only functionality I use is x for delete, i for input, Alt $ > for goto eol (I don't know how you get to the beginning) and d with > the down arrow to remove two lines, which means that I often have > to insert a line first in order to delete the one line I need to > remove. > 0 (that's a zero) to go to the beginning of a line dd to delete the current line ndd (where n is a number) to delete n lines (the current one and n-1 subsequent lines If you type ``:viusage'' it will give you a list of commands. > Is there for UNIX something with the lack of complexity of the DOS > edit program? Simple marking, cutting, pasting is all I really > need. > Look in the editors section of the ports/pcakages, read the descriptions, install one or more, try them out, then delete the ones you don't like. This is not flippant answer; editors are a real personal preference (religious wars are fought over vi versus emacs) so only you can know which you consider a good choice for your needs. Personally I use vi(1) all the time, even on Windows boxes :) > Thanks for any tips. > > mvh/regards > > James Wilde > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ryan Thompson [FreeBSD] > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 03:08 > Subject: Programmers' editor? > > > > Hi all; > > > > As many of us here are programmers, and do so in FreeBSD, I reasoned > > that this would be great place to find out what console text editors > > people use. Before this thread even gets going, though, let's remember > > not to start a flamewar, and move relevant parts to -chat :-) > > > > I currently use lpe (I downloaded/compiled, but there's a slightly dated > > version available in ports, last time I checked). I do a great deal of > > development in Perl and Java, with copious amounts of C(++) and HTML > > thrown in. lpe handles the syntax highlighting for all of these (and > > the colours aren't that bad, either :-) The only things I find (more > > than slightly) annoying about lpe is its lack of auto-indent, and lack > > of configuration options (most, if not all persistent configuration > > options must be compiled in). Not-so-slightly annoying is its lack of > > automatic indents (i.e. tab width indent after a curly { brace). > > Admittedly, lpe isn't built for power, but it turns out to be a good > > all-around editor. > > > > If I had a large programming project sprawled over many source files, > > admittedly, I'd move over to something more like emacs... But, for the > > day to day edits and smaller projects, lpe is about the best I've found, > > and walks with a very small footprint. > > > > Feel free to 'disagree' with me; I'd like to see what others are using. > > > > -- > > > > Ryan Thompson > > VP Technical/Accounts > > ryan@sasknow.com > > (306) 664-1161 > > > > SaskNow Technologies > > http://www.sasknow.com > > #106-380 3120 8th Street East > > Saskatoon, Sask S7H 0W2 > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- PERL has been described as "the duct tape of the Internet" and "the Unix Swiss Army chainsaw" - Computer Shopper 12/99 ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message