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Date:      Mon, 28 Jun 1999 05:15:11 PDT
From:      <gtsirt@hotmail.com>
To:        wes@softweyr.com
Cc:        tetsuya1@prodigy.net, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG
Message-ID:  <19990628121512.2445.qmail@hotmail.com>

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Hi,

I was looking at prices for DSL modems (Routers and Bridges) and I could not 
find anything cheaper than 400-500USD! Does anyone know a cheaper source? 
(on-line preferably...)

Thanks
George


spork wrote:
>
>On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Wes Peters wrote:
>
> > Tetsuya Watanabe wrote:
>
> > FreeBSD doesn't know about the ADSL, it just sees a router.  Your "ADSL
> > modem" is really an ethernet to ATM router, and should answer the DHCP
> > request for you.  Doesn't it?
>
>Probably not.  I understand most of the cable modems work that way, but



>even the one I've seen still then acts as a DHCP *server* to the PC.

Precisely what I expected.

>As
>far as cheap-o ADSL services go, they usually give you a bridge (Westell,
>Alcatel) which is a completely dumb piece of hardware that just bridges
>every ethernet frame to the DSLAM and beyond.  If that's the case, then
>you need to listen to whatever some dhcp server behind the ISP's router is
>handing out (the router is likely set up as a DHCP helper).

Ugh.  I'm only familiar with the USWest service, which uses the NetSpeed
(now Cisco) router.  Bridging your entire LAN onto the DSL line seems
like a pessimal solution.

>That's at least how they do it here in Bell Atlantic land...  Another
>thing to note is that somewhere along the line they may be filtering by
>MAC address and they may have forgot to get that info from you.  Here you
>cannot do a thing until they've stuck your MAC address in the switch that
>aggregates all the customers together...

Duh.  And I'll just bet their customer service people are polite and
well-trained, right?

--
       "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                 Softweyr LLC
http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr                      wes@softweyr.com


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