From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Feb 5 12:40:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C598C37B401 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:40:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from histidine.utmb.edu (histidine.utmb.edu [129.109.59.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3435643F93 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:40:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bdodson@scms.utmb.EDU) Received: from histidine.utmb.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by histidine.utmb.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h15KdVZV000327; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:39:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bdodson@histidine.utmb.edu) Message-Id: <200302052039.h15KdVZV000327@histidine.utmb.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:39:31 -0600 (CST) From: "M. L. Dodson" Subject: Re: GGI (was: Project Status) To: bakul@bitblocks.com Cc: tlambert2@mindspring.com, rsidd@online.fr, giffunip@yahoo.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200302052016.PAA26626@repulse.cnchost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 5 Feb, Bakul Shah wrote: >> X has forever suffered from fixed cell rendering. GGI will not fix >> this; changing X would. Several companies have done this in the >> past: NeXT, with NeXTStep, Sony with NeWS, etc. > > Terry, your memory needs some sort of ECC. It was Sun who > did NeWS (Network extensible Window System). SGI too picked > it up for a while. IIRC Sony had a machine called News (with > whatever cApItaLization) but that is a horse of a different > color. > Yes. > If by fixed cell rendering you mean one-to-one mapping > between a character and a glyph (grpahical shape) I agree. > The situation with Indic scripts is considerably more complex > where multiple characters can map to a single glyph, where > there are many more glyphs than characters, the glyph of a > char depends on the position of the char in a word and so on. > But without kernel based graphics support I don't see any > hope of getting truly first class support for Indic scripts. > >> > ridiculously slow machines. SGI became a graphics powerhouse using X. > > IIRC SGI used NeWS before X but I am not 100% certain. > Yes. But early on, SGI hot rodded X with very good drivers for their proprietary graphics hardware pipelines and with very good 3D drivers. Anyone remember 4Dwm and GL (_not_ OpenGL)? They got 3D rendering performance reasonably comparable to OpenGL on today's Intel machines with processors roughly comparable to a P5-166. So saying SGI used X is somewhat misleading, sort of like saying Michael Schumacher drives a car for a living. M. L. Dodson -- M. L. Dodson bdodson@scms.utmb.edu 409-772-2178 FAX: 409-772-1790 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message