From owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Thu Dec 27 20:57:59 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE391422CED; Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsnsdualce@memeware.net) Received: from cock.li (cock.li [185.100.85.212]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EFC08B632; Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsnsdualce@memeware.net) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on cock.li X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, NO_RECEIVED, NO_RELAYS, T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=_SCTYPE_ autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=memeware.net; s=mail; t=1545944275; bh=PDArw3eCKrgBPn3Du2da92DBo+ZezoXuDe42llF0hQM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=GqzG4yVjyvoaG/mriKkLP4VARTnTgJZ9LVYGHQM9lsyp/z1O2Pie+bosmCnir7JPS c6IpDx2wRsKvvKJd6l4PyhFNAPWjxN+PgbmQvquCOylNF/8qYf9y/j7tWlY8PPWLV1 3fDvfFpm2xM7HsiJsXMhFf11OMt4qawR8oLhlTuqLT/9qxeVo8e1MvFZuFeS56xt6R Y3xSdkQJkw/JbHrke/BpfXAI23tGc7v05tn+YrIg78SBRnbDvzaM3ie94XWiEmAVNE gj3zxMygHArMBE2mdoqtw8IMhEOhuKHqVmDKC+u+LyiDRZzBTcgsJFmMKPseWslvyy OSIL7vcHNGzRA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:57:55 +0000 From: vsnsdualce@memeware.net To: Paul Stuffins Cc: owner-misc@openbsd.org, OpenBSD general usage list , Raul Miller , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, freebsd-women@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, visionsofalice@redchan.it, owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is no one discussing this anymore? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: X-Sender: vsnsdualce@memeware.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2EFC08B632 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none (invalid DKIM record) header.d=memeware.net header.s=mail header.b=GqzG4yVj; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vsnsdualce@memeware.net designates 185.100.85.212 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vsnsdualce@memeware.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.42 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.989,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.68)[asn: 200651(-3.31), country: SC(-0.08)]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[memeware.net]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[memeware.net:~]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.cock.li]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[9]; R_DKIM_PERMFAIL(0.00)[memeware.net:s=mail]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.45)[-0.450,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:200651, ipnet:185.100.84.0/23, country:SC]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:57:59 -0000 Waiting quietly for two months for Eben Moglen's preliminary write-up (which I was to be sent to "correct") got me no-where. Every seems to have concluded that the issue is settled since there was no more public discussion. All the "other side" said was "nuh-uh" and "you're not a lawyer" (false: I am) and "you deserve to be in prison , isn't practicing law without a license a crime!" (I have a license), and "I'm sure RMS would have made sure the license was not revocable" (he required everyone to sign over their copyright to his foundation... guess why...). Along with "This Artistic License Case decided the AL was not a contract, it was simply a copyright license!! SO THERE!!" (AL is not the GPL... but... the finding in that case helps me, why are you citing it?). (They wisely did not cite the printer driver case where the court looked at the offer to do (paying) business and decided that their was an offer and acceptance based on that other additional writing... since that one isn't on point at all except for the fact that one of the options in that writing was a choice of a GPL licensed work if you didn't want to pay a commercial fee. (The contract there was the other writing giving the option: Pay and get more rights, don't pay and here's the GPL), so at-least there's that.) Being nice did nothing but harm the case of the truth in the eyes of the people however. The guys on the DNG list (Steve Litt I believe) are the ones that want me jailed... On 2018-12-27 20:37, Paul Stuffins wrote: >> Are you idiots aware > Insulting people is not the right way to get your point across! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"