From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 28 15:33:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9696616A401 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carton@Ivy.NET) Received: from sakima.Ivy.NET (sakima.Ivy.NET [69.31.131.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9B413C44B for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carton@Ivy.NET) Received: from castrovalva.Ivy.NET (castrovalva.Ivy.NET [69.31.131.61]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sakima.Ivy.NET (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F272FF68 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by castrovalva.Ivy.NET (Postfix, from userid 405) id F41C712FE28; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:33:15 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org References: <6d7d37410704280814i1eb053b6x281b714f9a4c3d09@mail.gmail.com> From: Miles Nordin MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="pgp-sign-Multipart_Sat_Apr_28_11:32:33_2007-1"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:33:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: <6d7d37410704280814i1eb053b6x281b714f9a4c3d09@mail.gmail.com> (Didrik Madheden's message of "Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:14:21 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: T-gnus/6.17.2 (based on No Gnus v0.2) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.7 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Sanj=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/21.4 (alpha--netbsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Subject: Re: Netbooting Sparc64+HD question (Boot problems resolved without netboot) X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:33:17 -0000 --pgp-sign-Multipart_Sat_Apr_28_11:32:33_2007-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>>>> "dm" == Didrik Madheden writes: dm> Maybe I'll try on netbooting sometime again when I feel more dm> confident. yeah, I still don't know what was wrong. I guess I would try tcpdump next. >> atapci0: using PIO transfers above 137GB as workaround for >> 48bit DMA access bug expect reduced performance this is a hardware bug on the Ultra 5/10 that's CMD/Silicon Image's fault. Sun never added a workaround to their driver---they just refuse to ship the machines with >80GB. I didn't know the SunBlade 100 had the bug, too. In theory, it means exactly what it says. In practice, I've found IDE on Ultra 5/10 is so crappy and such a time-sink that I avoid it like the plague. On FreeBSD/NetBSD I use SCSI or netbooting, and on Solaris I use SCSI, FireWire with Oxford 911 firewire cases only, and the iSCSI initiator to IDE targets in i386 boxes. Each of those has its own problems. (respectively: expense, expense and smartctl doesn't work, and kernel panics when you unplug the network cable.) In general I've had so many small problems with IDE on not-i386: I have some PCI card that will work at Ultra100 speed in NetBSD/i386, but in NetBSD/macppc it only works at Ultra33. Some cards don't work right unless the chip is initialized by their secret proprietary PeeCee BIOS. The problems never get fixed or explained. I don't know if there is something about the chips that assumes i386 or what. Reliable storage on noti386 has been a major frustration for me, so I guess you'll have to try it and see. good luck. :/ --pgp-sign-Multipart_Sat_Apr_28_11:32:33_2007-1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (NetBSD) iQCVAwUARjNpO4nCBbTaW/4dAQLgkwP/SxgbKYIIPiUoAaMQzBqKuuJ4hhCdUY7e 1L8JqLZ9gq5sDUCRyGRUOreLOSefH8wO8eygJcH7jvDuOhySWBXJYzgrhpocBMAP B2jHT/pOE77VlVy5BbJDrCjIekYuFp5qYpY6ogP8b8sFZ00hHo19/Eo5pgsL9NTp S8PaUhttYZk= =MrCK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pgp-sign-Multipart_Sat_Apr_28_11:32:33_2007-1--