From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 17:35:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF17E1065672 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:35:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s26.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s26.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58DF8FC16 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:35:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY126-W29 ([65.55.131.64]) by bay0-omc3-s26.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:35:48 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [65.214.169.254] From: Sean Cavanaugh To: , Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:35:48 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E417F@www.fcimail.org> References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E417F@www.fcimail.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Feb 2009 17:35:48.0652 (UTC) FILETIME=[80A22EC0:01C992B8] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: desktop app/config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:35:50 -0000 > Date: Thu=2C 19 Feb 2009 12:19:09 -0500 > From: jnatola@familycareintl.org > To: millenia2000@hotmail.com=3B jerrymc@msu.edu > CC: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: desktop app/config >=20 > That's sounds like what I'm looking for=2C however=2C when you say login = with no > user or password- I'm not sure if I like that because our fileserver is g= oing > to have to authenticate them at some point as will access to the printers= so > somewhere somehow I need a login no? >=20 What i was refering to was having a basic user with no system authority suc= h as deleting files and whatnot on the local machine. dont want inexperienc= ed user screwing up a perfectly fine system. if you have a file/print server set up then you are correct and should prob= use a password for the user account. i was assuming local access only.=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean Cavanaugh [mailto:millenia2000@hotmail.com]=20 > Sent: Thursday=2C February 19=2C 2009 12:17 PM > To: Jean-Paul Natola=3B jerrymc@msu.edu > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: desktop app/config >=20 >=20 > > Date: Thu=2C 19 Feb 2009 12:05:08 -0500 > > From: jnatola@familycareintl.org > > To: jerrymc@msu.edu > > CC: questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: RE: desktop app/config > >=20 > > I think we went off track a bit- I do know freebsd- my mail filter is a > > FreeBSD with clam exim and sa- but I NEVER use the gui's - I want to se= tup > > some "recycled" machines with bsd and a gui that will be easy for a use= r to > > grasp- I have mac users and pc users here- > >=20 > > But thanks for all the tips- I currently use ee for editing=20 >=20 >=20 > I think what you are looking for overall would prob be a baseline install > with either Gnome or KDE installed. Personally I prefer Gnome but KDE is = more > MSWindows like in its interface. You can go as far as to skin either of t= hem > to look like MSWindows. >=20 > setup a basic user with no system control and no password for users to lo= g in > with and change /etc/ttys so that ttyv8 is turned on and set to GDM or KD= M > (depending on which you want to use). >=20 > Definitely configure what additional software you need installed per your > needs. >=20 > -Sean >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu]=20 > > Sent: Thursday=2C February 19=2C 2009 12:00 PM > > To: Jean-Paul Natola > > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: desktop app/config > >=20 > > On Thu=2C Feb 19=2C 2009 at 10:27:30AM -0500=2C Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > >=20 > > > Hi all=2C > > >=20 > > > I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the > library > > > running FreeBSD-=20 > > >=20 > > > What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what conf= ig > do > > I > > > need so that when the machine starts (power / boot) it will automatic= ally > > > launch the desktop gui > >=20 > > The easiest way to get used to it is to just fully install the latest > FreeBSD > > (that is 7.1 at the moment) RELEASE=2C update it to RELENG_7 or RELENG_= 7_1 > > so it has the latest patches. Install Xorg for Xwindows so you will hav= e > > graphics. Then install a few handy ports from the /usr/ports tree. > > Some you will want are Firefox and Thunderbird and Openoffice=2C althou= gh > > you may want to install Openoffice from a binary package rather than > > from ports. Openoffice is very big and building it can be daunting > > for a newbie. Some other good candidates might be Apache and Perl > > and maybe a couple of games for fun. > >=20 > > Then=2C just start using it. Learn to find things you need on the syste= m.=20 > > and configure the network securely. There is lots of documentation in > > the FreeBSD Handbook and other places online. The more you do it=2C the > > more they make sense. > >=20 > > One thing to learn is using the vi(1) text editor. There are many > > other editors=2C but for system management=2C vi is the omnipresent=2C > ubiquitious > > one. It is sometimes the only one available in times when bad things > > are happening. It feels rather clunky when you first start to use it > > but it quickly becomes second nature. The FreeBSD man page is pretty > > good on it. I have a web page that simplifies it a little at:=20 > >=20 > > http://z2.cl.msu.edu/~jerrymc/project/editvi/ > >=20 > > There are a number of books available that help learning FreeBSD. > >=20 > > "FreeBSD Unleashed" and "Absolute BSD" are a couple of them > > The FreeBSD Handbook which is online at the FreeBSD web site and > > is installed if you want it when FreeBSD is installed is quite good. > > The FreeBSD site also has other documents and links listed. > >=20 > > At first=2C it will seem a little strange. Generally FreeBSD is command > > oriented=2C not pointy/clicky oriented. That is a much more powerful wa= y > > to administer a system=2C but it takes more initial learning. > >=20 > > Ask questions. People on the list have already heard all the common > > complaints and gripes that FreeBSD is not like MS-Win dozens of times. > > The usual response is "Thank God" or something similar. Anyway=2C they > > are not interested in hearing whines again. But=2C if you have a real > > question about 'how to do' something or even 'why is it done this way' > > and not just grousing=2C people on the list are usually very good about > > giving answers. List people are very interested in helping people=20 > > learn=2C but not interested in people complaining.=20 > >=20 > > If it is a bug=2C post a pr. If it is a feature request=2C remember tha= t=20 > > FreeBSD is created and maintained by volunteers - very smart ones - but= =20 > > they have limits on time and resources so your request may take a very= =20 > > long time to get attention. You may well learn how to do it yourself=20 > > and then submit it as an improvement before then. > >=20 > > Good luck and have fun. > >=20 > > ////jerry=20 > >=20 > > >=20 > > > thanx > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org"