From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Apr 20 17:11:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21771D488ED for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:11:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D738B401 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1d1Fbz-000MjI-QU; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 19:11:19 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 19:11:19 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Grzegorz Junka Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed? Message-ID: <20170420171119.GJ74780@home.opsec.eu> References: <58F61A8D.1030309@a1poweruser.com> <29e44642-e301-f07c-afe3-bad735d8ee5e@freebsd.org> <20170420053722.GD31559@lonesome.com> <20170420084452.GH74780@home.opsec.eu> <99a57878-ae39-d2a4-fe35-023dae8b320b@gjunka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <99a57878-ae39-d2a4-fe35-023dae8b320b@gjunka.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:11:19 -0000 Hi! > Fine, but would that be a good approach? Doesn't it look more like a > process change than a code change? For me, it does not look like a process-change only. I haven't thought through all the details, I'm going with my intuition here (because thinking it through takes a long time). One number: I made approx. 40 commits to quarterly trees in 2 years, and broke it one least once, probably more often. Go to https://secure.freshbsd.org/search?committer=pi and then limit the view to the 8 quarterlies and check those commits. It might as well be my sloppiness, but... > Surely, some code would need to be > changed but then again, wouldn't that be mostly configuration? My gut feeling says it's more than a little change and a bit of configuration. -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go !