From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 16 16:00:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CFD25F1; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 16:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gw.zefyris.com (sabik.zefyris.com [IPv6:2001:7a8:3c67:2::254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E42AB1FEF; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 16:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sekishi.zefyris.com (sekishi.zefyris.com [IPv6:2001:7a8:3c67:2::12]) by gw.zefyris.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s3GG0Jbl030634; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 18:00:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 18:00:19 +0200 From: Francois Tigeot To: marino@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Synchronizing package defaults with Linuxes? Message-ID: <20140416160006.GA36751@sekishi.zefyris.com> References: <534EA16F.5010704@marino.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <534EA16F.5010704@marino.st> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (gw.zefyris.com [IPv6:2001:7a8:3c67:2::254]); Wed, 16 Apr 2014 18:00:19 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Ivan Voras , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 16:00:36 -0000 On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 05:27:43PM +0200, John Marino wrote: > On 4/16/2014 15:53, Ivan Voras wrote: > > What do you think of the idea of syncing versions in general, and this > > example of PostgreSQL in particular? > > The example of PostgreSQL isn't really good because people have been > asking for change in default for probably two years now. I have no clue > as to why it hasn't changed but people do not want 9.0 as the default. > > BTW, DPorts has had postgresql 9.2 as the default for 15 months now, > everything is fine, so there is no reason that I know of why FreeBSD > isn't at least at 9.2. > > > As for syncing with Linux -- I personally don't like the idea. The > defaults should be picked deliberately, not because _____ Linux is at > whatever version. I tend to agree with John on both points. Changing default software versions to be in line with whatever the Linux distribution of the week is doing is futile. Changing default software versions to something reasonably stable and recent makes sense. Concerning Postgres, 9.3 is the latest stable version, brings JSON support to the table and doesn't need SYSV shared memory sysctl tuning anymore. Making it the new default is the logical choice. -- Francois Tigeot