From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 24 13:27:41 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B473657EE for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 13:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCqkh3xpqz4Wgy for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 13:27:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [192.168.43.113] (unknown [172.58.140.59]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F28704E662 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 08:27:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200724032840.GA61047@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200724043553.GA62650@admin.sibptus.ru> <838706788.121367025.1595568764100.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <20200724055924.GB64228@admin.sibptus.ru> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <25b4ef9e-81a2-09e8-8dd3-f2e4733c4b5c@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 08:27:38 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BCqkh3xpqz4Wgy X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.08 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[172.58.140.59:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.31)[0.305]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.01)[-0.009]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.68)[0.680]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 13:27:41 -0000 On 7/24/20 4:28 AM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 2020-07-24 10:50, Christos Chatzaras wrote: > >> I use jails for multiple PHP versions and I prefer it this way because >> it's a neat method and keeps my main system "clean" from EOLed PHP >> versions. > > I always install PHP only in jails, as it keeps my system "clean" of > something for which there's always a security hole being announced in a > few days :) > I fully agree with you. The whole flame war of this thread is between "I want my system just work and have everything without effort" and "I want my system really secure". Some of us split from Linux to FreeBSD (servers at least) in pursuit of security, others may be splitting from FreeBSD to Linux with their goals. And the only reason this flame war starts on FreeBSD mail list is: Linux mail lists will kick you out pretty quickly ;-) Valeri > And even if I trusted PHP, I would not trust PHP applications. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++