From nobody Sat Jun 11 02:04:55 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C861B85F2EA for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2022 02:05:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa1-x30.google.com (mail-oa1-x30.google.com [IPv6:2001:4860:4864:20::30]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4LKh4X0Rjlz4dtr for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2022 02:05:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oa1-x30.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-e93bbb54f9so1407395fac.12 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 19:05:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=1gb8YLzYWnQxXBMEP/YNkbictSWh+U1VR8BMi7uclho=; b=Mt+j/WPbnubbIT58e5zVh7w+cag3LNWyI9tT0qGC2km8h46kC8uAin9adfN1dcrGYj 1CJEENphpOU7RiO1B2XvYDxF9kbD2c/9OzcdtTTaiZbNeTGX/8RDXFaEfcgKTXnUFTDh w5/1op2I19dfAgcKKPc4S6sX2i5GbtF/tP5CFHRwwwft2PAdxuStBN1xHgirqIy3/dgS D9yyTyzSsiaTcf2ZzQhfkeuDvL0JeV9QONfVinkXl4xEJPpvzjqQMAPuCSsmIqBRYHig /oQNm3h+te9rqDVc6MJy1RqkblyTluamCZtu4iSAiNCK1EvYFcQ+dl3dbf6D4rVeG3Az 5szg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1gb8YLzYWnQxXBMEP/YNkbictSWh+U1VR8BMi7uclho=; b=pDGaMo9NChONqRiZX7VdHYYPjhs1HyW+NLT/vDkafr9alMrXrxakupXJCAKWyihayg 4mWEB94rXbMxhgf2K+7Lk9LRkr+CSyLQG9EMAGz38cHLUecm/y/Kcd+zLGQGt6lzYfxF uZRydCn8gKhgWQHMlWURMg1O6sg2fOiE7QLVJ3AKmb9iXBtjdGYON8EfKSsqxTbV/fcz v9/d14mbowRE78Tw7BAGF44qPsPtxK+mqyKfspvcwuVjil+wtCjTtYJN1U1vC1dr+6Fl YO5g7m2dg9IFtub3IGq2zVdm4JVegIHMj93r1Vek3ixQi368A5QikJrjN/ElwYGnZdcc QX/A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533onhM/4b3NvPBUNYIMnco01jYbRzPBAAHKEL5RYqRErmi6wJju siTxWYgY/9gzHBqvX2+jgPpr9HsXIW/NTnX6SOKs6lVX X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzBOCh3P11oLDe63akF9K3aDc6O9RnuaRUtTNPtR/1grsi7LSvWX8d+0nUe4W/88rgnUvOPb9TEbkp1u56oSPM= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:472a:b0:fe:657:2daf with SMTP id b42-20020a056870472a00b000fe06572dafmr1508913oaq.16.1654913131182; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 19:05:31 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <950710c3-0988-cb60-d038-ce822685d143@holgerdanske.com> In-Reply-To: <950710c3-0988-cb60-d038-ce822685d143@holgerdanske.com> From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2022 05:04:55 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: typing with broken arm To: David Christensen Cc: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000051815005e1227dcd" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4LKh4X0Rjlz4dtr X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="Mt+j/WPb"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mesanliturk@gmail.com designates 2001:4860:4864:20::30 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mesanliturk@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:4860:4000::/36]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2001:4860:4864::/48, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2001:4860:4864:20::30:from]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --00000000000051815005e1227dcd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 3:17 AM David Christensen wrote: > On 6/10/22 15:09, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > I just broke my wrist and find typing (coding) very hard (took me 5 mins > to > > type this sentence for example). Any ideas on how to make it easier to > > type/input code (Java, HTML and JavaScript)? > > > I use a QWERTY mechanical keyboard, a wheel mouse, and Vim for desktop > apps, sysadmin, shell scripts, and Perl scripts. When I broke a finger > in a car wreck three years ago, my right hand was non-functional for 5+ > weeks. I learned to do everything with my left hand. It was awkward at > first, but my accuracy and speed improved with practice. Assuming your > disability is temporary, this is probably your best solution. > > > If your disability is permanent, STFW most one-handed keyboards are for > gaming (left half of QWERTY plus macro keys, buttons, trackball, etc.) > and most disability keyboards are QWERTY with large keys, large > high-visibility printing, missing numeric pad, etc.. But, I did find > some programmable keyboards with grid layouts. You could supplement a > QWERTY keyboard with such and/or build a complete replacement: > > https://www.koolertron.com/ > > https://www.prehkeytec.com/ > > http://www.programmablekeyboards.biz/ > > > David > > David's suggestion triggered my response . Around 15 years ago , I suggested to a family friend to train their two children to use their left hands like their right hands as much as possible . I was tying their right hands to enable them to perform their daily tasks with only their left hands as a play . A girl around 10 years old wounded her right arm and her arm became tied for a while . The girl said : - Uncle , I am understanding now importance of your suggestion to train our left hands to be able to use it like our right hands . It is important to train the children to use their left ( or right when they are left hand users ) hands just like their right hands . With my best wishes . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk --00000000000051815005e1227dcd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Jun 11, 2022= at 3:17 AM David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
On 6/10/22 15:09, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> I just broke my wrist and find typing (coding) very hard (took me 5 mi= ns to
> type this sentence for example).=C2=A0 =C2=A0Any ideas on how to make = it easier to
> type/input code (Java, HTML and JavaScript)?


I use a QWERTY mechanical keyboard, a wheel mouse, and Vim for desktop
apps, sysadmin, shell scripts, and Perl scripts.=C2=A0 When I broke a finge= r
in a car wreck three years ago, my right hand was non-functional for 5+ weeks.=C2=A0 I learned to do everything with my left hand.=C2=A0 It was awk= ward at
first, but my accuracy and speed improved with practice.=C2=A0 Assuming you= r
disability is temporary, this is probably your best solution.


If your disability is permanent, STFW most one-handed keyboards are for gaming (left half of QWERTY plus macro keys, buttons, trackball, etc.)
and most disability keyboards are QWERTY with large keys, large
high-visibility printing, missing numeric pad, etc..=C2=A0 But, I did find =
some programmable keyboards with grid layouts.=C2=A0 You could supplement a=
QWERTY keyboard with such and/or build a complete replacement:

https://www.koolertron.com/

https://www.prehkeytec.com/

http://www.programmablekeyboards.biz/


David




David's=C2=A0 suggestion triggered my response .

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Around 15 years ago , I suggested to a family friend to trai= n
their two children to use their left hands like their ri= ght hands
as much as possible .

I was tying their right hands to enable them to perform their
<= div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_= default">daily tasks with only their left hands as a play .



A girl arou= nd 10 years old wounded her right arm and
her arm became tie= d for a while .

The girl said :

- Uncle , I am understanding now importance of y= our
=C2=A0 suggestion to train our left hands to be abl= e to use it
=C2=A0 like our right hands .


It is important to train the chil= dren to use their left ( or right when they are
left hand us= ers ) hands just like their right hands .


With my best wishes .


Mehmet Erol Sanliturk

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