From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 24 23:27:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FFE16A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:27:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lilith.bellavista.cz (lilith.bellavista.cz [213.235.167.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1CF43FF3 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:27:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by lilith.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9267928; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:27:02 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 680082FDA01; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:27:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:27:02 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Simon Barner Message-ID: <20031125072702.GG340@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Simon Barner , kosmos , questions@freebsd.org References: <20031027200046.33CF516A4DB@hub.freebsd.org> <20031027214510.GA52000@kosmos.mynet> <20031027223648.GC1004@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <20031028000708.GA52155@kosmos.mynet> <20031028004319.GF1004@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031028004319.GF1004@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: kosmos Subject: Re: Bug in ports howto question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:27:06 -0000 # barner@in.tum.de / 2003-10-28 01:43:19 +0100: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 04:07:08PM -0800, kosmos wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:36:48PM +0100, Simon Barner wrote: > > > > What is the procedure to submit a new port when you don't have access to > > > > a dedicated and highly-visible Freebsd machine on the internet? > > > > > > You have to configure sendmail (or any other MTA of your choice) to use > > > a proper mail server (e.g your ISP's) as a smarthost/mailrelay. Perhaps > > > at least a reference to the according sendmail documentation should be > > > added to the send-pr man page. > > > > Yes, I tried installing a simpler MTA this morning. > > > > I think it's asking too much to require sendmail configuration > > expertise from contributing porters. Sendmail configuration is > > normally relegated to sysadmins that specialize in it. then use a different MTA, one with proper documentation, configuration helpers, or digestible config file formats. there's plenty of them in ports. qmail bundled documentation contains precise description of steps required to produce a nullclient configuration, as does postfix documentation. > > The skill sets are mutually exclusive. aha. you can't possess skill in both skiing and driving. the skill sets are mutually exclusive. eh? > > > > I wonder how many people just give up trying. > > > > > > Good question. Every single volunteer giving up is a pity. > > > > Yep. It happens and nobody is aware of it. The ports collection doesn't > > really benefit from decreased access for contributors. is it that hard to have send-pr(1) save the PR in file instead of sending it out, and attach it to a mail in your favorite graphical MUA? you *are* able to reach @freebsd.org, after all. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html