From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 17 13:37:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B50106564A for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:37:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 588A88FC13 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:37:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4699 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jun 2010 13:37:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 17 Jun 2010 13:37:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Message-ID:Date:Disposition-Notification-To:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Eu71sJGAcOt2TAQYrTGbJXQhMV2HZv4FEcPrmiCFtOEWw0GrOCI0T9dmDVrMYFwPRhU+dVMgRkjQvMd7bW0hs29QqjfVnVuJmRVsolKW8Q1I+eeOd4UjDjaqLbR1GdGO; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OPFHI-0008Rw-Ep for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:37:08 -0600 Received: from 206.74.86.236 ([206.74.86.236]) by mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:37:08 -0600 Message-ID: <20100617073708.3qv5pckg1wgsckk8@mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:37:08 -0600 From: Programmer in Training To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100615211740.GA50967@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100615154956.cfz6ip454w8gcco4@mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100617081156.8441dc67.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100617035140.x8bpf02348g4o8ok@mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100617123319.00d86245@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20100617123319.00d86245@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Theora vs h.264 [Was Re: concerning flash under freebsd] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:37:09 -0000 Quoting RW : > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 03:51:40 -0600 > Programmer in Training wrote: > >> Quoting Polytropon : > >> > >> > That's all within transition. Currently, big video portals are >> > moving to HTML5, often including the wish to also use free and >> > open standards for their videos so they can access a bigger >> >> That's a no-go, I have it on good authority that h.264 was chosen >> over Theora. That along with mpeg-la having put out a press release >> saying it won't charge royalties for "free" uses of some of it's >> patents several months ago[0], while I would love for Theora to have >> won out as the standard, once again corporate interest (this time a >> big push from Apple, from what I understand) has won out. > > > As I understand it, originally Ogg Theora was going to be the standard, > but it's now been left open instead due to uncertainty about Theora > infringing patents. Some sites are using Theora, but most seem to be > going with h.264. I presume that this is due to IE support for h.264. It's quite possible if the h.264 patents are really as extensive and =20 broad as mpeg-la claims (also, if they are so overly broad, they need =20 to be invalidated as patents are for specific inventions). > I believe Google are going with h.264 and a newer BSD licensed codec > they are sponsoring themselves as an open-source, patent-free > alternative. I thought Google was going with VP8 (as was mentioned earlier)? I have =20 a friend or two on the HTML5WG mailing list as the source of a good =20 deal of my info. --=20 Yours in Christ, PIT All original content (C) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed.