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> > > It is clear that that the "bin" licensing issue has not yet been
> > > resolved. Is there any ETA on when this will happen.
> >
> > 9 months ago?  Seriously, this is an ongoing process that just hasn't
> > been resolved, despite the efforts of the JDK team, Sun product
> > engineers, and (now former) employees of BSDi.  There is a long and dark
> > story I could give, but I'll avoid it. :)
> >
> > > It seems that at present nothing is ever going to happen if this has
> > > not, or will not be resolved to every one's satisfaction. I would have
> > > though that after some 6 months from the last announcement ( 10/2000 )
> > > that there would be some progress towards an amicable solution.
> >
> > Have you ever dealt with lawyers before? *grin*
> 
> Do you see any solution to this issue in the near future?

I *just* got off the phone with one of the J2SE managers, and we just
canceled the BSD BOF at JavaOne.  That shold give you a good idea on how
soon I think this is going to get resolved.

> Would it be good to start making some "noise" about that, sending
> a small story to JavaWorld and JavaLobby, for example?

Doubtful.  The issue is one of resources more than anything else.  BSDi
promised some, then forgot for a very long time until a former employer
picked up the ball.  This employee has subsuquently been laid off, so
anytime we start getting any momentum, we get the rull pulled out from
under us.

I'm beginning to think the whole project is cursed or something...


Nate

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