From nobody Thu Jan 16 08:34:26 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YYblY2KHmz5lN5w for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2025 08:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marietto2008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pl1-x636.google.com (mail-pl1-x636.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::636]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YYblY0J3Jz3hw8 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2025 08:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marietto2008@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-pl1-x636.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-21631789fcdso22673225ad.1 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2025 00:35:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1737016503; x=1737621303; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=2zZI5i/wZbw5WoB7j7PWAbSgUSXnDVdVR+86pAXg6jA=; b=FzA/KFwuV3nR7p0NKUennqOkrjg+worGYkRzBEWfaJ/sPghlfGfyYK10ApmlXwVXk+ pOS7783RVFtKicV2WSGZxSxpVQZ8POCk5RlNlEaYmhSvhphBNqZVBFsTT0K2RD23O6Gb gBovZawIPlrPlKxoWG2E0Gmz8A+KvL4VrSAEfQ2spe+Yb3pM+YWxVjj7TBQPdN6db0eM gygiTYmcotIDMqKLq2OAJTwTkcxBvO403PxmjyNuaw4V2zXkMxOBN7G8eEwIgIwCiy4h +G3ykmE/9GZ5WrAgQsd+N6q6uvNFNaSYPUBbtYX6Md1gthdgd0WbKL8HyIbGUgTcmLrF /a4Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1737016503; x=1737621303; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=2zZI5i/wZbw5WoB7j7PWAbSgUSXnDVdVR+86pAXg6jA=; b=icp81we7DG7SijiE1fNF9viintCcGRTWo4ToNAuiKev7iFfyRVd5GPkf0sMEbm4a02 rNO4FHq3m3GCkGbzVILnXcOEOc+StKGE7+e1wjWcZCJgAkdcAQsmLKaACw1A5zajXzFa hBSyeUloN4DLWgAVgvXXRctX2cvgEMct1/gncyfy/SRfKDKq/wqGlZMn+wK+DfwIMA1y wQ6NXkUPD04hkfTj5zYFmrAY6Ff0yhZG1UIhmsPgfP2qQnlhiBAd6k5uCv65S/VOOGCF fd7O7ngiX3U0+oTFwfFdwaAlu0qnXvD61/krryCb3zvEjXObGaobf2dcetumO7mmFbhP 3qqQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwyPMhVRkaeNJI/SbeiS6ahAOMPPgmhefoAH/AVAiTmlT3HsQ4y p18QY0Fk0NSUWKjBIUN7mvyrgU+JVjPAZdBOW4uXDy3fjqkRAGsbAcy4GpB9Hvegg6PeNaLkQYS YXU4evpTEjGGJpxfSZCMlHavEflizm2/+fVM= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncvChi0/5pKVZB9sBVRihyhtVW2Psb6/CncQXcQATf4i2BUp0rMWh4qIHM94H4Z m55kWz2qZCqz+dOU4UNX7TztgSDu77sUAbd13wfM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGLmqHDKSSHpGrUkL2voxzn6dTbemWcm+yss5INjIacSZ0pO3dT410/BDZECUAV6izuRUCMSEuXevYiz2rT87g= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:42:b0:2ee:9229:e4bd with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2f728dd3cfcmr9847214a91.2.1737016503231; Thu, 16 Jan 2025 00:35:03 -0800 (PST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3609a3702b93e0f1bf388edc1ba28cc4dcd4284c.camel@riseup.net> <64680b8562332437307e57bd67051ef87cc1017a.camel@riseup.net> <466ef0074ccf4bad3724f08b36d31402ef93c3f3.camel@riseup.net> <66faec51-771a-4172-a6ee-b1463797be24@fatti.com> In-Reply-To: <66faec51-771a-4172-a6ee-b1463797be24@fatti.com> From: Mario Marietto Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 09:34:26 +0100 X-Gm-Features: AbW1kvY4d9TT1i4RFog1e4jdd7hIHy-EkRAwUURpWI2yC46PxXFAa6iFj4moQ2w Message-ID: Subject: Re: Project FreeBSD mobile phone : let's talk about the display I love to use To: enrico.migliore@fatti.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a4eba0062bceab9e" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YYblY0J3Jz3hw8 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] --000000000000a4eba0062bceab9e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We are all nerds. The most appealing thing is when a nerd will create something for the other nerds so that these latter ones will do the same but better. You can call this the battle of the nerds. And when a big company will realize that a new chance of making money with a fresh product is ready,all the nerds will lose interest. And the time to create something fresh and new will come again. Luckily for me, I'm a nerd and not a fan of the big companies. For me it's good if something does not work perfectly because it means that it can be improved. More things are broken, the more fun there is. On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 8:12=E2=80=AFAM Enrico Migliore wrote: > Hi, > > > the problem is that Tech Giants don't want an open source competitor in > the smartphone arena and will do anything to stop any attempt to build > an open source smartphone. > > Yet, designing and producing a community driven smartphone is difficult > because it costs a lot of money. > > 5G chips has many royalties to deal with and it's not that sure that > Qualcomm will sell his modems to an open source project. > > > Raspberry PI is a notable exception but: > > 1. It's not an open source platform > > 2. It's a semi-finished product and doesn't come with a case > > 3. I really would like to read the CE and FCC test reports.... > > > The open source community might start an open source phone with, at > least initially, a WiFi interface. > > > Enrico Migliore > > > On 15/01/2025 18:38, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > For some time (years) I do use a Linux mobile, not with an Adroid, but > > with a real Debian kernel and software stack. It's the Purism L5 > > (check https://puri.sm/) The sources are OpenSource and the Purism folk= s > > tried to upstream changes they made to Debian Linux. > > > > I think, this would be the way to go, port this over to FreeBSD, becaus= e > > the hardware was designed to run a modified Debian. > > > > Btw: Even in suspend, the battery drain is still around 8-10% without > > any use of the mobile; and this was already a big step forward. > > > > matthias > > > > -- > Questa email =C3=A8 stata esaminata alla ricerca di virus dal software > antivirus Avast. > www.avast.com > > --=20 Mario. --000000000000a4eba0062bceab9e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We are all nerds. The most = appealing thing is when a nerd=20 will create something for the other nerds so that these latter ones will do the same but better. You can call this the battle of the nerds. And=20 when a big company will realize that a new chance of making money with a fresh product is ready,all the nerds will lose interest. And the time=20 to create something fresh and new will come again. Luckily for me, I'm = a nerd and not a fan of the big companies. For me it's good if something= =20 does not work perfectly because it means that it can be improved. More=20 things are broken, the more fun there is.

On Thu= , Jan 16, 2025 at 8:12=E2=80=AFAM Enrico Migliore <enrico.migliore@fatti.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l= eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,


the problem is that Tech Giants don't want an open source competitor in=
the smartphone arena and will do anything to stop any attempt to build
an open source smartphone.

Yet, designing and producing a community driven smartphone is difficult because it costs a lot of money.

5G chips has many royalties to deal with and it's not that sure that Qualcomm will sell his modems to an open source project.


Raspberry PI is a notable exception but:

1. It's not an open source platform

2. It's a semi-finished product and doesn't come with a case

3. I really would like to read the CE and FCC test reports....


The open source community might start an open source phone with, at
least initially, a WiFi interface.


Enrico Migliore


On 15/01/2025 18:38, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> For some time (years) I do use a Linux mobile, not with an Adroid, but=
> with a real Debian kernel and software stack. It's the Purism L5 > (check https://puri.sm/) The sources are OpenSource and the Purism folks > tried to upstream changes they made to Debian Linux.
>
> I think, this would be the way to go, port this over to FreeBSD, becau= se
> the hardware was designed to run a modified Debian.
>
> Btw: Even in suspend, the battery drain is still around 8-10% without<= br> > any use of the mobile; and this was already a big step forward.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0matthias
>

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