From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 24 15:40:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B1A37B401 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4699F43E8A for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:40:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4B82A7D6; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:40:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Bill Fenner , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who broke sort(1) ? In-Reply-To: <200209242202.g8OM25P1091340@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:40:45 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20020924224045.2F4B82A7D6@canning.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Garrett Wollman wrote: > < s aid: > > > When's the first time the FreeBSD sort(1) man page mentioned that this > > syntax was deprecated? Can we at least start from there? > > It does not appear to have ever been properly documented. > > I don't object to maintaining backwards compatibility for a few more > releases (even if the application writers are the ones at fault), > since many more people read the manual pages than read the Standard. > However, I would point out that this isn't the first time we broke a > traditional syntax in favor of reducing restrictions on argument > names: see the recent history of chown(8). While this is true, consider that rev 1.1 of chown.8 says: COMPATIBILITY Previous versions of the chown utility used the dot (``.'') character to distinguish the group name. This has been changed to be a colon (``:'') character so that user and group names may contain the dot character. revision 1.1 date: 1994/05/26 05:22:22; author: rgrimes; state: Exp; It's also true that this was widely known and the transition was mostly orderly. We didn't turn it off one night as a side effect of another change that broke even our own world builds. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message