Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:48:47 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Creating armv7 MACHINE_ARCH Message-ID: <CANCZdfqccQik2ZgSb9qhKi%2BRER3k=CEgkVh26N=UWyAEMp160A@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20170612154745.6094931.30709.27134@gmail.com> References: <CANCZdfpUjPBRpxpmjtwK-wpiK=%2BwHscS4UmVeatrE7vrm260tw@mail.gmail.com> <20170612152808.6094931.74364.27128@gmail.com> <CANCZdfrxTo8vLsnjU_VerO%2B3%2BU=06cok7%2BuKba3FM8_nXFozhQ@mail.gmail.com> <20170612154614.6094931.61931.27132@gmail.com> <20170612154745.6094931.30709.27134@gmail.com>
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Me too: offence &=3D ~(TAKEN | INTENDED); :) On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> wrote= : > Ha ha I should have used a bitwise or in that. > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Virgin Mobile network. > *From: *Russell Haley > *Sent: *Monday, June 12, 2017 8:46 AM > *To: *Warner Losh > *Cc: *freebsd-arm@freebsd.org > *Subject: *Re: Creating armv7 MACHINE_ARCH > > No offense meant, no offense take: glad for a passionate answer! > > Russ > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Virgin Mobile network. > *From: *Warner Losh > *Sent: *Monday, June 12, 2017 8:39 AM > *To: *Russell Haley > *Cc: *freebsd-arm@freebsd.org > *Subject: *Re: Creating armv7 MACHINE_ARCH > > Clearly, we woke up one day and realized Ian was right? And he's only bee= n > saying it since pre R11 since that was the first release that supported i= t. > There was no armv6 support in 10. Ask a snarky question, get a snarky > answer... > > What's changed is that the port has gone from being mainly used by people > that had an rpi that supported a bunch of other platforms (including Ian'= s > iMX6) to a port that's used primarily by armv7 machines (including the > rpi2) that also happens to support the rpi (which is the only !armv7 > platform). When Ian started saying it, rpi was one of the better supporte= d > platforms as well. Now with all the Allwinner support, improved iMX6 > support, and the rpi2 being armv7, we are now in a situation where most > users and most of the good support is on that platform. What's also chang= ed > is Andrew's work on having a GENERIC kernel. We'd have a GENERIC one for > ARMv6 too: It's the RPI config :). > > Plus, we aren't quite doing what Ian wanted. He wanted a full rename. The > proposal on the able is to add an armv7 TARGET_ARCH in 12. Not to rename = or > remove armv6. Sadly, that will still be there since the RPI foundation > keeps finding new ways to repackage the rpi into new boards that are just > too cheap to ignore. > > Warner > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Sorry for the top post. >> >> Hasn't Ian Lapore been saying this since pre R10?=E2=80=8E I seems to re= member >> people doing backflips to get around this=E2=80=8E heading up to that re= lease and >> it was considered to much effort. Can I ask what has changed? >> >> Russ >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Virgin Mobile network. >> Original Message >> From: Warner Losh >> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 1:27 PM >> To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org >> Subject: Creating armv7 MACHINE_ARCH >> >> While the kernel doesn't really need an armv7 support, there will be a >> better match to other systems if we create a armv7 MACHINE_ARCH. This wi= ll >> be in addition to the armv6 MACHINE_ARCH we have today. This will allow = us >> to create a package set optimized for armv7 as well as armv6. While it i= s >> true the RPI 1 is the only system that needs armv6 binaries, it's quite >> popular and the Raspberry Pi folks keep creating new variants with the >> same >> chip. It would also let us get the package stuff spun up and working >> before >> we mess with armv6. >> >> This would also separate the fate of armv6 and armv7 support at a later >> time, but the weak consensus I've heard appears to be that the time isn'= t >> yet right to discuss retiring armv6 support... >> >> Warner >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-arm@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > >
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