From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Aug 5 15:45:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFCABB071B for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 15:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark.Martinec+freebsd@ijs.si) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [IPv6:2001:1470:ff80::25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 490621014 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 15:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark.Martinec+freebsd@ijs.si) Received: from amavis-ori.ijs.si (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3s5WMy5W7bz17N for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:45:02 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ijs.si; h= user-agent:message-id:references:in-reply-to:organization :subject:subject:from:from:date:date:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:mime-version:received:received :received:received; s=jakla4; t=1470411899; x=1473003900; bh=t98 pTUYxtwg/NPmyXC5b83/xfBKZiUTt8lSLgGJPJ1g=; b=id0QhcOIPwwkCEv/9Zy SaOdia5WjZXodmdpTb5gpLW1KKVMzVx4qX8eC5bBHeRNwMIwQb4AWV4FzjxjUVy1 pIYaetOc4GsIaC/6nfu1U0rtNkhyc+2wBgzdtQi79/jHBRAuGbOswrtmp2WLjVYT p9+HEP1MLqoKoIUyVYCaVphk= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si Received: from mail.ijs.si ([IPv6:::1]) by amavis-ori.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id gxysZGflx0Y2 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:44:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mildred.ijs.si (mailbox.ijs.si [IPv6:2001:1470:ff80::143:1]) by mail.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3s5WMv3w4sz17L for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:44:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nabiralnik.ijs.si (nabiralnik.ijs.si [IPv6:2001:1470:ff80::80:16]) by mildred.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3s5WMv3484ztK for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:44:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from neli.ijs.si (2001:1470:ff80:88:21c:c0ff:feb1:8c91) by webmail.ijs.si with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Fri, 05 Aug 2016 17:44:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 17:44:59 +0200 From: Mark Martinec To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3 Organization: Jozef Stefan Institute In-Reply-To: <279e9b67-da23-cdd6-3a77-b084ad8269eb@freebsd.org> References: <3629a441-ee6d-2407-fa13-5ebd8db8d802@freebsd.org> <000c29ee0f3dbd1d433c565023d69e25@mailbox.ijs.si> <279e9b67-da23-cdd6-3a77-b084ad8269eb@freebsd.org> Message-ID: X-Sender: Mark.Martinec+freebsd@ijs.si User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 15:45:04 -0000 On 2016-08-05 17:23, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On 05.08.2016 17:47, Mark Martinec wrote: >> [Bug 211598] >> date(1) default format in en_EN locale breaks compatibility with >> 10.3 >> and violates POSIX >> >> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211598 > > It breaks compatibility but not violates POSIX. POSIX care of only its > own POSIX (or C) locale. POSIX does say that the default format should be the same as with "+%a %b %e %H:%M:%S %Z %Y". It also says that %a and %b are locale's abbreviated names. It may not say what an abbreviated name really looks like in a particular locale, but it does distinguish between full and abbreviated names. Mark