Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2024 07:49:57 +0000 From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 270509] Various x11-drivers/xf86-video drivers erroneously assume that no kernel driver will attach to graphics cards (need local patches) Message-ID: <bug-270509-7141-F6u8mLsLIq@https.bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/> In-Reply-To: <bug-270509-7141@https.bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/> References: <bug-270509-7141@https.bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/>
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https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D270509 --- Comment #50 from Stefan B. <sblachmann@gmail.com> --- (In reply to heikki from comment #45) > I find it odd that people in FreeBSD team does not know this, being a ser= ver focused OS ? Maybe this is because one particularity of FreeBSD is that most developers = use MacBooks and virtual machines for testing. Eating their dog food isn=C2=B4t= very popular with them. Warren Block already tried to address this, without succ= ess. So I wonder less and less why Mr. Vadot wrote a laptop backlight tool while= at the same time pushing for removal of support for server-typical hardware. (In reply to Emmanuel Vadot from comment #46) FYI, it is actually _not_ the chipset, but the _logic_ that Matrox sells to OEMs and which is being integrated on silicon by several companies who manufacture server/industrial targeted chipsets. And please also consider restoring at least the xf86-video-ast driver and applying the simple fix shown in comment #29 to make it work again after yo= ur decision to remove pci.c without any apparent objective need and not to bot= her fixing the graphics drivers you rendered dysfunctional with this action, as= the aspeed graphics chip is another popular server-only onboard graphics chip b= eing used on currently manufactured server boards, albeit with smaller market sh= are than Matrox. Finally, please also keep in mind that 99% of the typical server users will= not complain/post PR's, but just drop FreeBSD and never consider again using it when they notice that it became useless due to the sudden, unexpected remov= al of essential drivers for current hardware. (In reply to Emmanuel Vadot from comment #48) Years ago, in the mailing list we already had a discussion about your desir= e to remove SC, and one of the main reasons is that for Nvidia cards suspend/res= ume only is supported by SC, but not by VT. Confronted by the sheer volume of substantiated protests, you postponed your intent to remove it. Here is the link: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2021-November/000468.html I have to admit that I feel disgusted by way you tried to force the removal= of the non-Intel/AMD/Nvidia drivers through the backdoor by making them dysfunctional by removing pci.c, and let the users clean up the mess. This = all puts up the question whether it is wise making ones' company's existence dependent on an OS that can break at any time because of such things. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=
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