From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 14 20:31:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EE816A4CE for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cableone.net (scanmail2.cableone.net [24.116.0.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDAF43D2F for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:31:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kitbsdlist2@HotPOP.com) Received: from vixen42. (unverified [24.119.123.61]) by smail2.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.5d2) with ESMTP id 2618253 for multiple; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:20:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:28:46 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: "Paul A. Hoadley" Message-Id: <20040414202846.6d6ae75f@vixen42.> In-Reply-To: <20040414235920.GC29612@grover.logicsquad.net> References: <12586.63.109.229.22.1081967765.squirrel@webmail.alienwebshop.com> <20040414235920.GC29612@grover.logicsquad.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com cc: Peter Leftwich cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:31:21 -0000 On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:29:20 +0930 "Paul A. Hoadley" wrote: > [Moved to -chat] > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:36:05AM -0700, Peter Leftwich wrote: > > > I thought I would post this as something of a warning. Using > > FreeBSD as a primary, non-dual-boot OS means sacrificing. Here is > > a partial list of sacrifices, as compared to Microsoft Windows XP: > > > > * webcam ball > > * flatbed scanner > > * color printer > > * digital cameras > > * firewire devices > > * several USB 1 and 2 devices > > * IM software features such as voice and video chat > > * websites that use ActiveX (Windows) controls > > * MP3 devices > > > > Any major sacrifices I've forgotten? ":-\ Think of as a chance to encourange hardware makers to make hardware that does not suck and actually confirms to actual standards. BTW firewire support exists under FBSD. Don't see why not being able to use websites that think ActiveX is for web is a bad thing. I personally would put this on there as a definite positive. Check the ports, you will find software capable of voice and video chat. Digital cameras do not work well under FBSD? I personally like FBSDs ability to access flash cards and it is possible with nearly any cheap flash card reader readily aviable at nearly any halfway decent store. The same is true MP3 devices. In many of these areas it basically boils down to don't support companies that make bad hardware as you will get screwed regardless of what OS you are running, including windows. Why even windows? What if this fly by night company disappears or a new version of windows is released then what are you going to do for hardware support? Simple, you are generally screwed. If you support good hardware, your time will be nicely rewarded. I have been finding outside of playing the occasional game, I have no reason to use windows what so ever since what I need and want is generally as well as supported under FBSD as on Windows and in some areas even better supported.