From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 20 13:48:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B9F1065670 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:48:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04078FC1B for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBD138.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.209.56]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5KDmSjL022057; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:48:29 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5KDmFnV096326; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:48:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5KDm2u3045621; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:48:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201206201348.q5KDm2u3045621@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 19 Jun 2012 23:22:39 +0200." <20120619232239.925d0aa4.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:48:02 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Subject: Re: Why Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:48:32 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > I assume it's just an aspect of "still being too young" in > regards of missing the difference between freedom and > anarchy: the right to extend one's freedom is limited > as soon as it limits the freedom of others. Maybe another > aspect is the lack of discussion culture and the proper > use of means of language. You often find such behaviour > among school children of the lower grades. Using words > without knowing their meaning is very typical for people > in puberty. :-) Yes. Questions@ has some un- self- disciplined kids/ drunks/ trolls, who degrade this list's signal to noise ratio. They could be reduced by a combo. of eg: - forcible unsub, & black list, - block of anon. remailer domains - making this list "subscribtion required before posting". (which would make it harder for newbies fresh to FreeBSD, but we need some solution) I suggest others too should complain to appending offenders bad postings, & let postmaster decide action. The only other option I can think of is to personaly extend my procmail filter on my own questions@ incoming stream, to delete all postings from listed individuals. Many others could do similar, but massive inefficiency, & newbies couldn't, & the noise on the raw unfiltered list & in web achives would damage FreeBSD. Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/