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Date:      Sun, 02 Mar 2003 11:12:49 -0800
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>, "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Any ideas why we can't even boot a i386 ?
Message-ID:  <3E6257B1.32AB9644@mindspring.com>
References:  <9064.1046627721@critter.freebsd.dk>

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Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message <20030303034332.Y30986-100000@gamplex.bde.org>, Bruce Evans writes:
> >On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Bruce Evans wrote:
> >> On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> >> > My main concern would be if the chips have the necessary "umphf"
> >> > to actually do a real-world job once they're done running all the
> >> > overhead of 5.0-R.  The lack of cmpxchg8 makes the locking horribly
> >> > expensive.
> >>
> >> Actually, the lack of cmpxchg8 only makes locking more expensive.  It's
> >
> >I.e., strictly more expensive, but not much more.
> 
> Bruce, it is not a matter of the relative expensiveness of the various
> implementations of locking primitives, its a matter of the cummulative
> weight of all the locks we add to the system.

Bruce's "make world" benchmark gave coverage of the cumulative
weight, in support of his point.

-- Terry

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