From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 8:14:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [209.67.240.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05EA37BCB6 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:14:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deimos@lewman.com) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 84E823D36; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE105BC2; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:14:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy X-Sender: deimos@lowrider.lewman.org To: Doug Barton Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-Reply-To: <395C55B6.5CD2F113@gorean.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > > And honestly, I don't have the time to debug > > it. It didn't work, I went back to what worked. Is that so bad? > > Nope, it's your life, spend the time whatever way feels right to you. > However, I think most of us would appreciate it if you don't "knock" > something you're not willing to put even the smallest amount of effort > into improving. I was going to let this go, but not now. My opinion is just one data point on a whole range of points about stability. Just because I don't take the time to re-submit the same PR doesn't mean I don't help. I've offered to help with many things in the FreeBSD community, they just aren't code related. My coding skills aren't on par with anything written for FreeBSD today. I volunteered to call Aureal to get sound drivers, and offered Cameron Grant any sound board he wanted, if it would help him develop drivers for it. I called Aureal, and some of the other sound chip vendors, to get an SDK that an open source OS could use. I don't have US$10,000 to volunteer to a project so they can get an SDK, sorry. I've learned my lesson, any digression from the norm in BSD land is just bad. God forbid someone raise a flag that everything isn't as smooth as is believed. Next time, I'll just keep my mouth shut. Jeez. -- | Andy | e-mail | web | | | andy@lewman.com | www.lewman.com | In Corning, Iowa, it's a misdemeanor for a man to ask his wife to ride in any motor vehicle. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message