From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 26 14:52:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067EC16A4CE for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 14:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBFD43D2D for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 14:52:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from se@freebsd.org) Received: from [212.227.126.179] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BT6K9-0006mN-00; Wed, 26 May 2004 23:52:33 +0200 Received: from [80.132.239.237] (helo=Gatekeeper.FreeBSD.org) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BT6K9-0001nG-00; Wed, 26 May 2004 23:52:33 +0200 Received: from StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org (StefanEsser [192.168.0.10]) by Gatekeeper.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C161612C; Wed, 26 May 2004 23:52:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: by StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 200) id CAC682314; Wed, 26 May 2004 23:52:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 23:52:13 +0200 From: Stefan =?iso-8859-1?Q?E=DFer?= To: Brad Knowles Message-ID: <20040526215213.GB12171@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> Mail-Followup-To: Stefan =?iso-8859-1?Q?E=DFer?= , Brad Knowles , Ivan Voras , current@freebsd.org References: <40B4ECC8.50808@fer.hr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:fa3fae9b6ca38d745862a668565919f6 cc: current@freebsd.org cc: Ivan Voras Subject: Re: Softupdates a mount option? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 21:52:47 -0000 On 2004-05-26 22:28 +0200, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 9:15 PM +0200 2004/05/26, Ivan Voras wrote: > > > This has been really nagging me for a long time: Why aren't softupdates > > made a mount option (like 'sync' and 'async')? Do I remember correctly > > that it is done so in NetBSD (where it's called softdeps), so it's doable? > > You need to read the documentation from Kirk. In short, this was > intentional -- the goal is that this feature will be turned on > permanently, at which point there's no sense in having yet another > useless mount option laying around. IIRC, the license is written > such that you are not *allowed* to make this a mount option, for this > reason. > > Kirk is really serious about this. You should read the Ganger & > Platt paper, as well as the other documentation written by Kirk on > this subject. I received mail from Kirk saying quite the opposite back in July 2000, see my other reply in this threat (or search for Message-ID <200006282051.NAA05776@beastie.mckusick.com> in the freebsd-arch list archive). Regards, STefan