From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 1 11:54:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D4837B4A5; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patrocles.silby.com (d111.as9.nwbl0.wi.voyager.net [169.207.132.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0963043E0A; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:54:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from silby@silby.com) Received: from patrocles.silby.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by patrocles.silby.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g61Ivecv086528; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:57:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from silby@silby.com) Received: from localhost (silby@localhost) by patrocles.silby.com (8.12.4/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id g61IvLev086525; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:57:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: patrocles.silby.com: silby owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:57:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Silbersack To: Doug Barton Cc: hawkeyd@visi.com, Terry Lambert , Subject: Re: ftp and mail much slower into fbsd 4.4 vs and old BSDi In-Reply-To: <3D209493.DF173DA0@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20020701135548.Y86208-100000@patrocles.silby.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Doug Barton wrote: > D J Hawkey Jr wrote: > > > I'm guessing that the suggestion to turn it off (the original thread) is > > valid enough, as all machines referred to were on the same network, else > > why wouldn't the above still hold true? Or is it a matter of FTP and/or > > SMTP (specifically, sendmail) not playing nice with newreno? > > The problem is that Terry has described the theory, whereas many of us > who have observed the situation in the real world have noticed that even > on a homogenous network (all with newreno enabled) performance is still > worse than with newreno disabled. > > I don't have enough network stack fu to debug or improve this, but I > have enough experience with it to know that off is better. For you, I'd > say turning it off is the first thing you should test, and see what > happens. > > Doug I've been meaning to investigate, but I keep getting sidetracked... But yeah, I agree with you. Going back to plain reno isn't the end of the world; it's still behaves decently and won't cause problems. Mike "Silby" Silbersack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message