From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jul 15 05:05:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA02456 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 05:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com ([206.245.251.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA02449 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 05:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA22987 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 05:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ufmMB-000QfnC; Mon, 15 Jul 96 14:02 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA04572; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:14:28 +0200 Message-Id: <199607151114.NAA04572@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Icons (was: FreeBSD keyboard) To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:14:28 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Chat) In-Reply-To: <199607140713.JAA15291@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jul 14, 96 09:13:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk J Wunsch writes: > > As John Fieber wrote: > >> It has nothing to do with typing ability. It has everything to >> do with the basic fact that humans are far better at >> recognition than recall. Recall may be more efficient, but only >> comes after a great time investment in memorization. For >> infrequent users, or infrequent tasks, recall will never be as >> efficient as recognition. > > The problem arises, however, that even for frequent users of such a > recognition-based system, the efficiency cannot grow beyond a certain > point. Indeed. You can learn it in a day, and you spend the rest of the time you use it paying for doing so. > When looking at the icon and toolbar etc. forest of the typical > application of these days, i still believe it's rather done for optics > than to improve recognition. I usually get the impression that even > the infrequent winloose user has about the same idea about the > particular meaning of these 25 icons in the toolbar as me, who does > not know anything about these programs at all. I think the icon approach has outlived its utility. Once upon a time, when windows-oriented programs had limited utility and people didn't demand too much in the way of functionality, and icons were a convenient way to help them. Now I suspect they confuse more than they help. Certainly I share your hatred of these cluttered "modern" screens. Greg