From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 18 18:00:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5465D0; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:00:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qe0-x22f.google.com (mail-qe0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77E7C249A; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f47.google.com with SMTP id b4so2090258qen.20 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 11:00:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rTd67h0ktdRFATINDm8x7hISSmoWFUVLUkUypL168BE=; b=Ht6nnXo8S0sbnedWfgwA178vnf4NxtErU0co3PNex3tZvKiTXF8LUOWNdOAEFVRPDt S6v+QrojMzf0o8cEWZnGOeLcbS+fUnYkDX5g4lgHtjRwN0pZF1JD3xSUFJWNLLM3z1aF kcS5gak4OfRCEAM0kQsDe5/QR0VAbc8fgkXXCi4bBFy3KykO7Jh1hfm1KHzpyI+5FRiE +KfNnG8Vph/QGZ5p3JO4caJJXeMJetaHVTo3f/D/a8MIvLtuLoSzS7bAEi6wIcCTV3Yc BrnKj5BFLDBsz0DpkxaF1lUBofiO2mSmbsVPHJPydwdtbXib5c1MPz+3upGW+9CJBTZB 4mPg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.157.14 with SMTP id z14mr6403087qaw.90.1382119220640; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 11:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.207.66 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 11:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 11:00:20 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FZrzP8rMpkhObh7lbHyPnoa3uX8 Message-ID: Subject: [rfc] removing the NDISulator From: Adrian Chadd To: "freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org" , freebsd-current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:00:21 -0000 Hi all, I'd like to remove the NDISulator. I've had many requests to update it to the latest NDIS version and support more of the 64 bit wifi drivers. But, to be perfectly honest, I have no desire to keep hacking at this. The world has changed quite a bit - we can port/reimplement drivers from Linux and other BSDs. So I plan on deorbiting it - I'll mark it deprecated during 11-HEAD and target to have it removed by 11.0-RELEASE. I'd rather see more of an effort writing new drivers and porting drivers from other operating systems. Thanks, -adrian