From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 24 08:11:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695C916A4B3; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pcnet.com (mail.pcnet.com [204.213.232.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C1343FBF; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:11:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eischen@vigrid.com) Received: from mail.pcnet.com (mail.pcnet.com [204.213.232.4]) by mail.pcnet.com (8.12.10/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h8OFBigG004916; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:11:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:11:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen X-Sender: eischen@pcnet5.pcnet.com To: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: current@freebsd.org cc: Dan Naumov Subject: RE: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: deischen@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:11:46 -0000 On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 23-Sep-2003 Dan Naumov wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 23:25, Dan Naumov wrote: > >> On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 23:13, Daniel Eischen wrote: > >> > I understand that folks want to wave their hands and say "just make > >> > -pthread work and do whatever it needs to". > >> > >> I am one of those folks as well. As an end-user, I am not interested in > >> hacking around the source of 3rd-party applications that use -pthread > >> when compiling them from source myself. Not in the slightest. This is > >> BAD BAD BAD for usability. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> Dan Naumov > > > > I also believe that a question has to be asked, what do the -core and > > -arch people think of all this ? I think that they should have the final > > say in the matter. > > I think having a magic option to gcc that translates to 'link with the > foo library' is rediculous. What's next, a gcc -math to get the math > functions in libm? The fact that functions live in libraries and that > to get access to said functions you link with said libraries has been > the practice on Un*x for longer than I've been alive. Please, people, > let the -pthread hack die and just use -l. > I think any FreeBSD-specific -pthread bits should just be removed > and have the compiler complain about a bogus option. If gcc chooses > to have a machine independent -pthread (or -thread) to turn on TLS or > some such, that's great and all, but that would be gcc code, not > FreeBSD-specific code. Where were you a few days ago! -- Dan Eischen