From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 12 17: 4:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from slkcpop4.slkc.uswest.net (slkcpop4.slkc.uswest.net [206.81.128.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8AB1E37B7D0 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:04:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jswarner@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 14334 invoked by alias); 13 Jun 2000 00:04:45 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG@fixme Received: (qmail 14264 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jun 2000 00:04:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO uswest.net) (63.224.105.250) by slkcpop4.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 00:04:42 -0000 Message-ID: <394579BE.F13F032A@uswest.net> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:01:03 -0600 From: Joe Warner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Young Cc: James Diefenderfer , Jerry Dunham , cal@rushe.aero.org, Greg Lehey , Wes Peters , Michael Smith , Sue Blake , newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Still No FreeBSD References: <200006100634.XAA15122@calamari.aero.org> <20000610202611.H22659@rider.dunham.org> <3942F563.9613BCE7@worldly.org> <20000610212117.N22659@rider.dunham.org> <3942FA1C.68246759@worldly.org> <20000610213641.P22659@rider.dunham.org> <3943EB0B.CB3B <04ae01bfd473$69588640$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just installed FreeBSD 3.4 on a Compaq Deskpro 266mhz machine today at work and the install went flawlessly. It recognized all my hardware, with the exception of the sound card. I'll fix this problem when I recompile the kernel later. I gave it a static IP address, got my Apache and FTP servers going. I forgot to install Netscape and went to /usr/local/ports/www/netscape/netscape47-communicator and typed "make install" and it went out through our firewall to Netscapes FTP site and did all the work!! (I played X-Bill and Battleship while it was installing) My co-workers were pretty impressed! 8^} Doug Young wrote: > I've only just noticed this thread ...... maybe its time someone did a > hardware > HOW_NOT_TO. I'll bet the problem is hardware related .... the machine & > the machine giving all the problems is one of those proprietary disasters. > I've > lost count of the weirdness I've seen with AST / Compaq / Fujitsu / HP / IBM > / Western / etc .... although strangely enough I have had good results with > Digital > Venturis boxes, as long as the original network card is replaced by an early > SMC > / 3-com / Intel. Another recipe for trouble is anything with an SiS label, > especially > videocards. Despite the warnings I've given other newbies, I just now tried > installing > 4.0 in a nice little Western box, thinking they would make lovely gateway > machines ...... > however this monstrosity adds a new meaning to "YUKKKKKKKKKKK !!!!! > makes me think maybe dougy should have stuck with the pizza business :) > not to fear .... the Digitals are all running nicely, and if all else fails > the old dual P100 > complete mit twin MFM SCSI's & 4.0 RELEASE is sitting in the next room > waiting > patiently for its next turn at gatewaying > > > It can be pretty discouraging when you're having problems but don't > give > > up. Be persistent and you'll eventually solve the problem. I don't know > > about anybody else but I had my share of bad weekends when I tried to > > install Linux for the first time. In my case, I was installing it on my > PC > > at work to dual boot with WIN 95 and thought I was going to have a heart > > attack when I thought I had it installed properly, rebooted and saw the > > message "Operating system not found". At the same moment, which is often > > the case, users were calling in for assistance and I desperately needed to > > get to the email and documents on my WIN 95 partition. Fortunately, I had > > created a ghost image of my PC and put it on CD ROM before the install. > > Each install after this, I became less and less apprehensive. One of the > > real joys I have found with using FreeBSD/Linux/Unix is that it forces you > > understand the inner workings of your PC and software on a much deeper > > level. I've gotten a great amount of satisfaction when I struggle with a > > problem for a few days and finally come up with the answer and fix it > > myself. In fact, I actually look forward to solving problems now. My > only > > limitation is time. If you're getting too frustrated, take a break, do > > some more research and go back at it. I'm confident you'll eventually get > > over this hurdle. Doug Young has written an excellent tutorial, geared > > towards newbies on installing and configuring FreeBSD. The install > > instructions focus on installing from floppy but you can ignore this if > > you're installing from CD. The jpg's are a little too big and take a > > little bit to load but, in my opinion, they are quite helpful. Take a > > look---->http://www.apana.org.au/FreeBSD/FreeBSD_Tutorial/ > > Good luck and don't give up. 8^} > > > > Joe > > > > James Diefenderfer wrote: > > > > > Well, it's been a very frustrating weekend. I have tried to install > > > FreeBSD from Greg's book and have been extremely unsuccessful. This > > > makes the 6th time that I have tried and failed. This time I got as far > > > as making the root password. Once I did that I was kicked back to the " > > > /stand/sysinstall Main Menu". Thinking this must mean I was done I > > > removed the boot floppy and the CD and rebooted. I was greeted with > > > "boot error". > > > > > > I am extremely tired of anything FreeBSD at the moment ! > > > > > > I love my Apple Powerbook G3 even more now, > > > > > > James > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity, and I'm > > not sure about the former. > > -Albert Einstein. > > 1879-1955. > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -Albert Einstein. 1879-1955. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message