From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 28 09:30:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327D716A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:30:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE34E43D48 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:30:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2S9Uob63376 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:30:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:30:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1173965660.20050328020543@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:30:39 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > >> But the ahc() driver -is- bug free. It's not bug free when it's >> running on modified hardware, but it's fine when it's running with >> unmodded hardware. > > It's also free of bugs if it's never called. > And you are criticizing others for irrelevant comments? > >> Tens of thousands (probably more) of other people run >> FreeBSD servers for years using aic7880 chipsets without seeing >> what your seeing. > > Even more run Windows without seeing what I'm seeing. > Exactly. If you ran Windows on your system and it blew up, because of all those other people running Windows successfully on aic7880 systems without trouble, woudn't it be obvious to you that it was a hardware issue? This goes to show that if you have a large number of people having no problems running a software package with a particular hardware item - in this case all the users running FreeBSD on aic7880 controllers - that when someone comes along with that hardware item and has problems, that the finger points not to software, but to hardware. > Someone must be running my machine, since it is mentioned on the 5.3 > compatibility list. > Perhaps they long ago replaced their SCSI disks with a cheaper and a much higher capacity IDE drive? Or more likely - they never lost their second Seagate drive like you did and never had HP send out a Quantum replacement? >> Clearly, there is something in your hardware that is different from >> all these other people and that FreeBSD doesn't work with. > > Probably. Sounds like an OS bug to me. How could it be an OS bug if nobody else is seeing it on normal aic7880 systems? Ted