From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 22 09:48:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C97016A422 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:48:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EA043D76 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:48:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jAM9pLb70328; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:51:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Simon Josefsson" Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:48:19 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Proposed license for IETF Contributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:48:43 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Simon Josefsson >Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:28 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Proposed license for IETF Contributions > > >"Ted Mittelstaedt" writes: > >> Hi Simon, >> >> You might check this but I believe that the Copyright convention >> specifically >> excepts "specifications" from copyright coverage. I think >there's some >> other >> classes of original work that fall under this. How about simply >> rewriting the >> ITEF license to designate any RFC as the complete RFC is a >specification, >> and therefore uncopyrightable. > >Hi Ted. I have not seen anyone suggest this before, and I strongly >doubt that anything as complex as a specification would be excepted >from copyright coverage. You are wrong. > >Please provide me with a reference for this. > http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#wnp Under the subheading: WHAT IS NOT PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT? "Works consisting entirely of information that is common property and containing no original authorship" In short, all you have to do is have the author of whatever IETF standard simply declare his ENTIRE standard description as common property, and instantly it's not copyrightable, thus you now have no issue. I think what your trying to do is retain copyright on the work with IETF which I think is the wrong thing to do. Your just asking for trouble. Witness what is going on with Microsoft trying to get ISO to standardize it's office document format. Ted