From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 01:23:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60BE106566B; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD23C8FC0C; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AC86B1C29; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:23:34 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: "Jason C. Wells" References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4C8AD94A.9060404@speakeasy.net> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.7; tzolkin = 3 Manik; haab = 0 Chen Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:23:34 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4C8AD94A.9060404@speakeasy.net> (Jason C. Wells's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:20:10 -0700") Message-ID: <86vd6df4yx.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Mark Sommer , freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:23:35 -0000 >>>>> "Jason" == Jason C Wells writes: Jason> On 09/10/10 07:29, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> >> I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. >> >> Jason> Java is not just for browsers. Indeed. And I still stand by my statement. Java makes everyone equally incompetent, which is why managers like it. It helps the beginner, hurts the advanced. Managers can swap programmers in and out strictly on head count, not on experience. Friends don't let friends make greenstarts with Java. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion