From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 12 20:42:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A83116A41C for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:42:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@mkproductions.org) Received: from ylpvm15.prodigy.net (ylpvm15-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC0D43D46 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:42:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@mkproductions.org) Received: from pimout6-ext.prodigy.net (pimout6-int.prodigy.net [207.115.4.22]) by ylpvm15.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6CKgIfM013771 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:42:18 -0400 X-ORBL: [68.90.147.237] Received: from [192.168.1.45] (adsl-68-90-147-237.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net [68.90.147.237]) by pimout6-ext.prodigy.net (8.13.4 outbound domainkey aix/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6CKfu2V354544; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:41:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42D438EC.3020809@mkproductions.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:41:00 -0500 From: Mark Kane User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050620) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <42D3F9C2.4090802@mkproductions.org> <20050712174119.GA86103@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050712174119.GA86103@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on AMD64 3000+ - amd64 or i386 version of FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:42:02 -0000 Hi, and thanks for the great response! I'm checking the ports now as you said. So far that list doesn't seem to include really anything that I would be using. The Azureus BitTorrent client I was mentioning requires Java, which is what I think failed before. Have you gotten any Java to work on your amd64 system? Another thing I was planning to try was VMWare with Windows 2000, because I have a few music production applications that just won't run on *nix or in WINE. Do you know if the VMWare port runs on amd64? I also saw "qemu" on your site...does that run on amd64 FreeBSD? Also, do you recommend -RELEASE or -STABLE for the amd64? What do you run currently? Thanks again! -Mark Roland Smith wrote: >On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 12:11:30PM -0500, Mark Kane wrote: > > >>1) I have an AMD64 3000+ processor. I've been reading some things around >>the Internet about ports and other software not compiling properly with >>the amd64 version of FreeBSD. Most of the things I've read about this >>have been from 2004 or even late 2003, so I'm wondering how things have >>progressed since then. Are there still many ports or software that don't >>compile properly? Is there a list somewhere of known ports not to work >>on the amd64 version? >> >> > >You could check the ports marked BROKEN for a connection to amd64: > >cd /usr/ports >find . -name Makefile |xargs grep 'BROKEN.*amd64' > > > >>Here is a short list of main things I will use this PC for: >>IRC (X-Chat, maybe irssi) >> >> > >X-chat works fine on my amd64 box. > > > >>Web Browsing (Mozilla Firefox) >> >> > >Firefox works. > > > >>Media playing (XMMS/VLC/mplayer) >> >> > >Mplayer & xmms work, don't know about VLC. > > > >>Email (Mozilla Thunderbird) >>Audio Streaming/Recording (streamTranscoder, streamripper, sc_trans maybe) >>BitTorrent (Azureus) >> >> > >Haven't tried these. > > > >>Audio/Video Encoding (lame, oggenc, various video encoding tools) >> >> > >lame and oggenc work. > > > >>Basically I'm wondering opinions on either the i386 or amd64 version of >>FreeBSD for my hardware for FreeBSD 5.4. Which works better? For what >>reasons? Are there any other caveats? >> >> > >I've never had problems with my MSI NEO FSR mobo with K8T800 chipset >(MS-6702), from 5.3-RELEASE to 5.4-STABLE. > > > >>2) Will my hardware work properly with the amd64 version? I see my >>motherboard (Giga-Byte GA-K8NS Pro) is listed as "Functional" on the >>FreeBSD amd64 motherboard page >>(http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html). >> >> > >Some parts of NForce chipsets don't seem to work very well. See the >mailing list archives. > > > >>My other hardware includes: >> >>Sound Blaster Augidy 2 Platinum >> >> > >Should work with the 'snd_emu10k1' kernel driver. > > > >>GeForce FX5600 (MSI) >> >> > >Should work with the standard 'nv' driver from Xorg. No accellerated 3D, >though. > > > >>TDK VeloCD 40x12x48 CD Burner >>Sony DRU500A DVD Burner >> >> > >ATAPI drives should work fine. > > > >>3) I know of a couple applications that don't build on the amd64 such as >>linux-firefox and Azureus. Does anyone have any info on when there might >>be versions compatible with the amd64, >> >> > >Basically, when someone is interested enough to fix the breakage. > > > >>or if there is any other software >>like them that would work with the amd64 version (main concern is flash >>on websites)? >> >> > >There is a open source flash plugin. See gplflash.sf.net It's in ports >as libflash-0.4.13 and flashplugin-mozilla-0.4.13. > >Roland > >