From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 28 04:25:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A425816A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 04:25:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6DE43D46 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 04:25:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFA160EA; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:25:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 71563-01; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:24:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE2E60E7; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:24:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41D0E046.9040608@makeworld.com> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:25:42 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041218) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDE7C1EA9D24907EB0786B06D" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: Nikolas Britton cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Broder_Mizz=E9?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?rable?= cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need help *fast* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 04:25:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDE7C1EA9D24907EB0786B06D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Nikolas Britton >>Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:08 PM >>To: Broder Mizzérable >>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: Re: Need help *fast* >> >> >>Broder Mizzérable wrote: >> >> >>>Hello there.. i'm switching to FreeBSD ' now '... i did try to use the >>>floppy installation way. but it seems like all my floppy's are 50kb to >>>small =/ ... so i was wondering .. is it possible to use a CD ' That >>>does already has stuffs on it but still boot it and download FTP wise >>>.. as you would do as on the floppy installation ... i do ask this cuz >>>i dont have any free CD's atm .. >>> >> >>I'm not quite following what you mean? You tried the standard tools to >>make the floppy's, like rawrite and dd? AND you did format these disk >>before hand to check that they didn't have bad sectors?.... I have a big >>box of floppy's that have been siting in the closet and every time I >>need one I have to go through 20 or so bad ones that have bad sectors or >>invalid media to find the one perfect one. floppy diskettes are junk >>thats why we stopped using them. >> > > > No, floppy diskettes are definitely not junk, there is nothing wrong > with the medium except that it doesen't hold enough. > > I used to work at a large software developer, Symantec formerly Central > Point Software (ie: PCTools) The last floppy runs of PCTools had at > least 20 5.25 diskettes and about 15 3.5 floppies and Central Point > did their own duplicating. There was no way in hell that floppies > that were anywhere near as bad as you imply could have been used for > commercial duplication, the reject rate would have been too high. > > The problem today is that the floppy diskettes you buy in the > store today are not manufactured under the high tolerances that > they are supposed to be, and the floppy disk drives are also > slopped together. I don't know how the commercial duplicators > do it if any are still doing floppy runs, probably none are > anymore. My guess is the few people still manufacturing them are > using old ratty equipment that probably should have been retired > years ago. > > Ted Good Lord! PCTools!!! Now yer talking! Even back when 95 came on like 30 diskettes... or was that OS/2? -- Best regards, Chris The wrong quarterback is the one that's in there. --------------enigDE7C1EA9D24907EB0786B06D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB0OBMD5P/gMAbw2MRAgJ3AJ49pPHCeIVzn+pUnD2Gp0tTWgmIEQCfbwo7 CwaoF0Z0Kdv0LfVOcALDzHo= =wrLp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDE7C1EA9D24907EB0786B06D--