From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 26 15:18:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (flutter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA94F37B4C5 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9QMION05344; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:18:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Wesley Morgan Cc: Doug Barton , Ed Hall , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:08:15 EDT." Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:18:23 +0200 Message-ID: <5342.972598703@critter> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Wesley Morgan writes: >On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> I don't really care that much how good my random bits are right after >> boot, but I do care about my machine coming up quickly. > >I don't know about that, look at your boot logs: > >Oct 26 17:32:19 catalyst /boot/kernel/kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. >Oct 26 17:32:19 catalyst /boot/kernel/kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >Oct 26 17:32:23 catalyst sshd[193]: Generating 768 bit RSA key. >Oct 26 17:32:23 catalyst sshd[193]: RSA key generation complete. > >Those times aren't correct I'm sure, but if I can't get enough entropy for >a 768 bit key _very soon_ after boot, we could have a problem. > >Somehow, I think everyone should care about that. You know, I think this thing is being blown out of proportion. WAY out of proportion. Yes, there are systems which the administrator will want to set to ultra_paranoid=YESDAMNIT! but for all the machines I have behind firewalls I would like to have act_like_a_normal_unix_and_boot_in_finite_time=YESPLEASE -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message