From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 06:06:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACC216A41F for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:06:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scirocco@tasam.com) Received: from liam.betanews.com (mail.betanews.com [72.35.233.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48BA43D4C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:05:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scirocco@tasam.com) Received: (qmail 37726 invoked by uid 89); 18 Nov 2005 06:05:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?165.247.105.124?) (testuser9@betanews.com@165.247.105.124) by mail.betanews.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 18 Nov 2005 06:05:56 -0000 Message-ID: <437D6F30.3060903@tasam.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 01:05:36 -0500 From: Joseph Gelinas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051110) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Dillon References: <20051117010651.97608.qmail@web50303.mail.yahoo.com> <20051117143322.lvz347pzkcg480co@netchild.homeip.net> <200511171135.53903.jhb@freebsd.org> <6.2.3.4.0.20051117120533.057ddae0@64.7.153.2> <200511171915.jAHJF0L6006229@apollo.backplane.com> <437CDD78.3010500@samsco.org> <200511172353.jAHNrlDl007641@apollo.backplane.com> In-Reply-To: <200511172353.jAHNrlDl007641@apollo.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:11:43 +0000 Cc: alan bryan , FreeBSD current mailing list , Mike Tancsa , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" , Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: Side note on Shuttle XPC / AMD X2 (SN95G5V3) (Re: [PATCH] nve(4) locking cleanup) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:06:00 -0000 Matthew Dillon wrote: > : > :I looked up this box and it looks pretty interesting, but I don't have > :funds to buy one for myself at the moment. Is the motherboard logic any > :different from normal NF4 boards? Could you try booting the FreeBSD > :6.0-bootonly disk to see if at least sysinstall comes up and can talk > :to your drives and network chips? > : > :Scott > > I'd be happy to. If you point me at an ISO image I can boot it up and > try to run through the install. Even better if its SMP (I think all > FreeBSD distributions are SMP by default now, right?). > > I suspect that the MB logic is considerably different. I have an > ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe NF4 system as well (its our package building box), > also with an AMD X2 in it, and it did not exhibit any of the problems > I have had with the shuttle. > > The ASUS has a different ethernet device... sk driver instead of nv. > The BIOS on that MB also reports reasonable numbers in the MPTable and > otherwise seems to be less confused then Shuttle's BIOS. The MP Table > on the ASUS lists 6 pure PCI busses while the one on the Shuttle > lists only 3. Both MB's have only one IO APIC. The BIOSes are clearly > very different. Shuttle's is more 'raw'. > > -Matt > -Current's GENERIC has SMP enabled by default (and the nve driver) so I would assume the recent snapshots would have it enable as well. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/Nov_2005/7-CURRENT-SNAP009-amd64-bootonly.iso