From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 14 18:43:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26149106566C for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 18:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: from mail-qa0-f47.google.com (mail-qa0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC178FC08 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 18:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qabg1 with SMTP id g1so922928qab.13 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:43:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=mOIpd78ph4BBLCOsVaDc3EJP/B4a0KbjZalgPsNfzoQ=; b=hTZRdPF8/1fSOdb+JBWD3yRpecjEgc7LzR/jIsS6J2/bppJZZeGbPk1HdtWL7Z56J0 KjS09k1N+yEMwN/QUXDG49exFxLufjiZln2FhI+iNz+MY3e7bLg0ehGiEy7/AigXLgU7 C11AyHTDZSxAbi+mKtglt4oL5XKnvXnTTtqEEkI/uzpduUlPpOvFfIGDu4RqMDlk70tD rayMvo396SeKj950rMG/kakXArhzqH5ApYGUZiT33zBnKYh/mrCxsifl7h05QEUJ1qyx Jyj86nPciORmbNTONCO5H0/oaqw7kfS3KhNUYxQGn2maBvQEumFYv2TQS4y2dQSJxW7L edgg== Received: by 10.224.30.212 with SMTP id v20mr11126210qac.52.1342291425033; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bhuda.mired.org (74-140-201-117.dhcp.insightbb.com. [74.140.201.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z9sm15852236qae.15.2012.07.14.11.43.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:43:42 -0400 From: Mike Meyer To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20120714144342.4c2141c8@bhuda.mired.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20120714061141.473cc8ee@bhuda.mired.org> <20120714141629.7d968e4e@bhuda.mired.org> Organization: Meyer Consulting X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkY9LJcQ66nnoB/pqMKU3i66QXTltppV7dYHtw/NJRKUBoBCvLVTnfNyFxp5kA1EKLs0k9H Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 18:43:46 -0000 On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:27:11 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > would have asked about that. My problem is sucky virtualbox > > performance, on any guest that has VT-X emulation enabled (which means > > all 64 bit guests). > i would rather bet on linux addon kernel modules you have to install. Are you talking about the guest additions? They're already installed (on a VM that was running on an older Core 2 CPU). Performance sucks. > In windows you have to install "guest additions" without this it is plain > terrible. I haven't managed to get through an install on a 64-bit windows system yet to try that. However, that Linux doesn't Linux, or for the 32-bit > >> Windows runs great (as for windows of course) under VBox. > > Not for me. *Every* 64-bit guest OS has sucky performance. Linux, > Are you sure with two level pagetables featured in modern CPUs including > sandy bridge? Yes, I'm sure that every guest OS I've tried on a 64 bit guest sucks. I'm busy recreating 32-bit versions of the 64-bit guests where I can. > > Are you only running 32-bit guests? Are you running on 9.x or 8.x? > for production - yes (6 instances of windows XP). Virtualbox does never > make main workload for me, it is just addon. On FreeBSD 8.3. Could you tell me if they all have VT-X disabled? > But i've tried Windows 7 64-bit and it worked fine. didn't see any > problems with latency you describe Could you send me the system settings (VT-X, PAE, etc.) you used for this? Thanks, http://www.mired.org/ Independent Software developer/SCM consultant, email for more information. O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org