From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 5 21:36:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C931C16A412 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2006 21:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB03F43CB7 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2006 21:35:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i28so1563716wra for ; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:36:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZJOw068TbDahY9qFCyUwPZruJ3ZIZ0OPAw8TqmMius0yfnXbGgGMESlTP8QBlTClKr8oTYcenMCUHSQrrSsZMOiSWZDyucvVbTXoqmvGBt7Ar6kt3nwXmNBkbk8BJyBYU0qkPPHwac7BMcXsn3ojiLwAzEVchUnU16nkz2z0480= Received: by 10.78.166.7 with SMTP id o7mr9463404hue.1165354574604; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:36:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.195.14 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:36:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57d710000612051336y60823c77ta4143645529c1878@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:36:14 -0800 From: "pete wright" To: "Josh Paetzel" In-Reply-To: <200612051509.58788.josh@tcbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200612041443.15154.josh@tcbug.org> <20061205180450.F1089@localhost> <200612051509.58788.josh@tcbug.org> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, Nick Hibma Subject: Re: Venting my frustration with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:36:20 -0000 On 12/5/06, Josh Paetzel wrote: > On Tuesday 05 December 2006 11:19, Nick Hibma wrote: > > > 1) SMP scalability. 4-way boxes are relatively common, and > > > hardware with higher CPU counts is only going to get more and > > > more common. I'm no industry expert, but 5 years from now will my > > > clients be considering buying 32 and 64 way boxes? Possibly. > > > Will FreeBSD be in a positiion to compete favorably vs. the > > > alternatives on such hardware? > > > > People have been working on this for years. It's a difficult thing > > to get right. Sun has been spending a *LOT* of time doing this for > > Solaris, and I bet that even Linux isn't there yet. > > > > Linux actually scales very well in this area. My friends in the > supercomputer business tell me that people are successfully using > linux on 1024-way SSI boxes. It doesn't scale quite as well as IRIX, > but a lot of people opt for linux anyways. > > For instance, NASA Columbia, which is a cluster of 20 512-way SSI > Altix's is successfully running linux, and comes in #8 on > top500.org's supercomputer list. yea, i'm pretty familiar with those systems and i would have to say that the Altix is indeed quite impressive. but, i would not equate the ability for SGI to implement a large SSI cluster like this to a "normal" user being able to implement a similar setup with a stock linus kernel or stock distro for that matter.... -pete -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group