From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 00:10:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E281106566B for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00658FC22 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-114-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.114.16]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B331E1E9; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:10:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p2B0AMx7002544; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:10:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:10:22 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Bas Smeelen Message-Id: <20110311011022.801208c0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4D78C832.6050301@ose.nl> References: <4D782C8D.3020102@extracktor.com> <1299728031.72606.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78804B.4040406@ose.nl> <1299756900.73766.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78C832.6050301@ose.nl> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:10:25 -0000 On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: > Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a > regular basis? > Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications) > on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g. > unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating. I would suggest that, too. Allow me to point out a new perspective of the way of use: GUI forces you to work in a linear way and pay extra attention. You cannot automate it. Depending on what your primary intention is, using CLI tools to get rid of "hands on" work may be a better choice. This approach of course assumes that you actually KNOW what you're doing, but that's a main requirement for any administrator. :-) > Webmin is a good GUI progam (from client perspective) for administering > your servers, it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can administer > almost every aspect of your servers with it. That's true, but it brings new security risks to the system. Also keep in mind that using a web browser limits your accessibility to what the browser can do (and the Webmin can support), e. g. you may be faster using a shell with patterns and autocompletition than manually selecting things from a list. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...