From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Dec 20 15:42:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED14D37B405 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:42:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19355; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:41:53 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011220163646.01c749e0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:41:48 -0700 To: Jeremy Karlson From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: GPL nonsense: time to stop Cc: "Gary W. Swearingen" , chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011220065451.02653af0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:09 PM 12/20/2001, Jeremy Karlson wrote: >I don't think "commercial" does it either. There can be commercially >created GPLed code - JFS, for example. JFS is not commercial. It is GPLed and thus cannot be sold for money. Yes, it was created by a commercial entity. But it is not commercial now. >> McKusick's essay in that book is worth a read. Stallman and Perens' >> contributions are pure propaganda. > >I'd like to take your opinion as one that matters, but the above sounds >like the statement of a person whose mind is set in one regard and rejects >all other opinions. Not so. Perens and Stallman's contributions to that book are not new material. They're the same deceptive rhetoric that both have always spouted. >Stallman and Perens essays may be completely preachy, >and I don't doubt that, but I'm sure there is still something interesting >and worth reading in them. The propaganda techniques are mildly interesting... but, again, you've seen them before if you've read anything else by these people. >What about the other contributors? Something, >say, that isn't about the GPL and BSDL fight? There's nothing in there about a "GPL and BSDL fight," unless you count the denigrating remarks about BSD by Stallman and Raymond. Except for McKusick's essay, which is a straightforward history, the book is steeply slanted toward the GPL, which most of the authors praise completely uncritically. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message