From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 15:01:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0BF16A40A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1223313C4C7 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l6JEwbUp085421; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:58:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:58:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20070719.085843.84363305.imp@bsdimp.com> To: freebsd@meijome.net From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20070719130252.6880b967@localhost> References: <200707181703.07480.idiotbg@gmail.com> <200707181541.l6IFf4ht051775@lurza.secnetix.de> <20070719130252.6880b967@localhost> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:58:38 -0600 (MDT) Cc: LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de, olli@lurza.secnetix.de, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, idiotbg@gmail.com, josh@tcbug.org Subject: Re: removing external usb hdd without unmounting causes reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:01:33 -0000 In message: <20070719130252.6880b967@localhost> Norberto Meijome writes: : re. USB disks, could we not by default use amd to mount USB devices? It seems : the obvious native replacement for hald + polkitd + dbus I use in XFCE with : Thunar on my laptop... Won't work. Once the device driver is already gone and devd/dbus gets the notification, it is already too late. umount -f will cause I/O to a device that no longer exists, causing the panic. Warner