From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Dec 30 16:38: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FDF37B401 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:38:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org [64.239.180.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A683E43EA9 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:38:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) Received: from hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBV0bH177154; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:37:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org) Message-Id: <200212310037.gBV0bH177154@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: David Schultz Cc: dever@getaclue.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:37:12 -0800 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Schultz writes: > True, but what makes SPAM different from other forms of > advertising is the cost model. ... > To fix the problem technically, you need to change the cost model, > or have some sort of authentication for email. Both of these are > a long way from general use, unfortunately. I agree with this somewhat, however I am loathe to make cost dependent in any way on content. In order to preserve the status quo of communication, I'd like to be absolutely content neutral. If the cost were based on the amount of mail sent, I'd say that would be sufficient. > (BTW, do you think you could fix your reference headers before you > get into another mega-discussion with Terry, so it's easier for me > to find the entertaining parts? ;-) Heh. I'm using the mailing list, which is perhaps why references headers (an artifact of NNTP) don't process here. ------ Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<< "Trying to control information in the network age is about as successful as pissing into the wind." - Keith Henson, in an article on the AABBS prosecution, _Computer_underground_Digest_, Jan. 21, 1995. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message