From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Wed Nov 11 08:55:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0355A2B1D5 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m@micheas.net) Received: from mail-ig0-x230.google.com (mail-ig0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E63C1C24 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m@micheas.net) Received: by igvi2 with SMTP id i2so115588477igv.0 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 00:55:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=micheas_net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=eOOrYe7S/mYojoXXk5gb2+sYSoQXstIEEqCyf1T84qI=; b=grfqxUH80Uzs6/uGnE51xBXAyMunmYJcJSujS63gMHhZjpSJJLwkdyh6Kw2yLU4Iqt f8B44Hzh77nOZm87So3/bkYy/k9wWqOcOSE24wZREdNqY0Elx9XiR6bOm+DvG7mflmCZ z8RLVAH9DdlfPU6q2yTGBQCJx3q53DqM+1cT+e6MmjDff8IQQYSGB1+mqmYALI4zxlsI BzSZQJ+XYASS7s/qwG0mI/fcTOLjww0NrTbW9niYcBFFBkzGMYfT86L/O8njvlqAaJmp jrgnp7wleE+6emF/AfRGbGAHt/SN7S8d4hjD5olq3fqY47oNfRGLJxj+JWzYcRefbjmN N0gA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=eOOrYe7S/mYojoXXk5gb2+sYSoQXstIEEqCyf1T84qI=; b=LRA5UzxfZw+roeJAS40giuSfvJDlZ2ak3nKfyZNZtWqUmvZ3mjtYXrWT2uSVu52P3T CjIn3ahgxM9S8+6ilLcpxrod12bkh3+oeJ3jnQ1U1hQNutodZXd4U49gvmGDTiryY65c ZAv13tWcQC6FAELu+qDsrXFqwSvfpU6gsKGuZeVQqaN3aSWV9P8bK33vX3OyZr9RBDTx JT21xktdY+jt/MpttEHBcYVs7h0viJghBnZolAPbXVkDAVCFUu9k4mRlOA6ZSPKD1agp qEjPf/2qLYGDE3TdxG7NHhZwXTM5sw0uDDbgLVCo6Va3Jzv9msnPZhMG0M0Rrq1f1hLG 4mVg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnpTQYx8kP/eF0x5qdycHWHDA70XnB8Z7C8v3AHvc5ADJ6S5FXnlsGRz4msFGkYzpeZJkq/ X-Received: by 10.50.67.18 with SMTP id j18mr31421309igt.43.1447232137445; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 00:55:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.105.65 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 00:55:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151111075930.GR65715@funkthat.com> References: <86io5a9ome.fsf@desk.des.no> <20151110175216.GN65715@funkthat.com> <56428C84.8050600@FreeBSD.org> <20151111075930.GR65715@funkthat.com> From: Micheas Herman Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 00:55:18 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OpenSSH HPN To: "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:55:38 -0000 On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:59 PM, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > > > If you have a trusted network, why not just use nc? Defense in depth for starters. The ipfw how to guide I learned from years ago, started with the statement that a firewall should be a shield in front of machines that don't need the shield. Security is hard, and you will get it wrong (everyone does), accidentally exposing an encrypted stream is much less of a mistake than exposing a plaint text stream. > > > -- > John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 > > "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"